Re: [77attendees] Bar BOF: Impact of NAT444 on content providers

In message <4B9D70B7.2050001@gmail.com>, Brian E Carpenter writes:
> Bar BOF: Impact of NAT444 on content providers
> 
> Day:  Tuesday March 23
> Time: 17:30
> Room: TBD
> 
> Inspired by some remarks of Lorenzo Colitti (Google) at the recent
> APRICOT/APNIC meeting in Kuala Lumpur, we plan to discuss the value
> of a short draft aimed *specifically* at content providers, to describe
> the impact on them and their customers if many of those customers are
> trapped behind double IPv4 NAT (NAT444). Clearly the issues are not
> news, but they tend to be described in complex general drafts, or
> mixed in with proposed solutions or alternatives to double NAT.
>
> Quoting Lorenzo: "...it would be
> good to put together an IETF draft that very concisely lists the problems of
> NAT444 from the content provider perspective. For example: worse geolocation
> for targeted advertising and streaming content restrictions; higher latency;
> IP blocking for abuse/spam causing collateral damage, etc."

These don't appear to be limited to NAT444, DS-Lite and NAT64 also
have these issues as they are trying to put more users behind less
addresses.

> (Also see http://www.isoc.org/educpillar/resources/docs/ipv6_200905.pdf)
> 
> The bar BOF agenda is to decide whether to proceed with such a draft and
> if so, to identify the people who will write it and the target date.
> 
> Highly relevant existing documents include:
> 
>  draft-ford-shared-addressing-issues-02.txt
>  draft-azinger-additional-private-ipv4-space-issues-03.txt
> 
> Drafts that touch on the topic in one way or another include:
> 
>  draft-nishitani-cgn-04.txt
>  draft-shirasaki-nat444-01.txt
>  draft-shirasaki-nat444-isp-shared-addr-03.txt
>  draft-shirasaki-isp-shared-addr-04.txt
>  draft-davies-reusable-ipv4-address-block-00.txt
>  draft-boucadair-port-range-02.txt
>  draft-ymbk-aplusp-05.txt
>  draft-thaler-port-restricted-ip-issues-00.txt
> 
>      Brian Carpenter
>      (whose only commitment is to make the bar BOF happen)
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