Re: [85attendees] Safety in the surroundings of the Hilton

Alexandru Petrescu <alexandru.petrescu@cea.fr> Sat, 03 November 2012 15:54 UTC

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I can only guess and suppose that the walking path between Motel 6 and
the Hilton would be relatively safe.  But I never know.

Le 03/11/2012 15:36, Fernando Gont a écrit :
> On 11/03/2012 11:29 AM, Olaf Kolkman wrote:
>>
>>> I've read some bad reviews about safety in that area... but I've
>>> never been to Atlanta, so....
>>
>>
>> Just make sure your stuff is not up for grabs.
>>
>> Yesterday I saw somebody being pick pocketed on the parking lot
>> next to the Hilton. I guy snatched a bag from a shoulder and ran
>> away.
>
> Well, that's a bit more than plain pick-pocketing... :-)
>
> Anyway, I was more concerned/wondering about being robbed with guns,
> or being beaten up for that purpose (and that kind of stuff -- i.e.,
> stuff for which commons sense might not help much)....

Let me say how I as outside US feel about it.

There are feelings like - overall, in US one has more risk to run into
somebody owning a g.. than in another country.

Homeless people - it's difficult to identify homeless by just looking.
A common EU homeless is much worse dressed and skin appearance than a
common US homeless.  In US it's common they'd push supermarket caddies
whereas it's less common in EU.

In Vancouver IETF I was told that the Sheraton and nearby marina and
park is safe but I got verbally aggressed for simply looking at somebody 
there I couldn't realize was what I'd call here a 'clochard'.

In Philadelphia I was told same safety insurance, but I got interrogated
and forbidden by patrolling officer because I was taking photos on
tripod at midnight in a dark area, about that famous banner "IETF" on
Philadelphia tower.

A common safety advice I receive in US cities is to go back to room at
20h00.

One the positive side, in several years of IETF I never heard of 
somebody being physically aggressed outdoors during an IETF meeting 
(despite the some times "let's fix this outside between you and me"
statements in WG meetings :-)

Alex


>
> The reviews I've read about the area are not really nice... but I
> don't really know to what extent they should be taken seriously...
>
> Thanks,
>