Re: [Ace] draft-ietf-ace-oauth-authz

Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu> Tue, 05 May 2020 04:09 UTC

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Date: Mon, 04 May 2020 21:09:17 -0700
From: Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu>
To: Olaf Bergmann <bergmann@tzi.org>
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Subject: Re: [Ace] draft-ietf-ace-oauth-authz
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On Mon, May 04, 2020 at 09:21:06AM +0200, Olaf Bergmann wrote:
> Hi Peter,
> 
> Peter van der Stok <stokcons@bbhmail.nl> writes:
> 
> > When I want to access an OCF device I can find its IP address through
> > service discovery (rfc7252 section 7) using an rt-value registered at
> > the IANA core parameters registry.  For example, when I want to
> > initialize the AS I have to type in the IP address of the AS.  From
> > that moment on keys and certificates can be compared to continue
> > initialization.
> >
> > Using service discovery can automate that process.
> >
> > My request is that authz draft registers an rt-value in core
> > parameters registry for service discovery of the AS, unless a
> > different process has already been established for AS initialization.
> 
> That is exaclty what originally has been done in section 9 of
> draft-gerdes-ace-dcaf-authorize [1]. Somehow, this got lost in the
> process.

I think I'm still a little confused as to what good being able to
"discover" that the network says something is an AS is, without some prior
trust and/or key material for that AS.  How would the necessary trust be
established as part of such a discovery scheme?

Thanks,

Ben