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Re: [Add] Recent calls for adoption discussion and group consensus

Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Fri, 29 October 2021 16:48 UTC

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From: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2021 09:47:29 -0700
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To: Tommy Pauly <tpauly=40apple.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Add] Recent calls for adoption discussion and group consensus
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I would also like to extend my thanks.

On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 9:12 AM Tommy Pauly <tpauly=
40apple.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

> Hi Glenn,
>
> Thanks for this update and your careful thought here. I look forward to a
> productive discussion on these documents at the upcoming meeting!
>
> Best,
> Tommy
>
> On Oct 29, 2021, at 8:25 AM, Deen, Glenn <
> Glenn_Deen=40comcast.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>
> Hi ADD,
>
> Yesterday the chairs announced the evaluation that the ADD WG Adoption
> call for 2 documents (1) & (2)  seemed to have sufficient consensus to
> support WG Adoption.    These were both difficult to evaluate in this
> case due to the small amount of replies and the chairs used the list
> discussion and recent meeting discussions to evaluate the direction the
> group wanted.  It’s easy to make these calls when there is a strong
> response, especially if you can have the type of discussion beyond basic
> email to help gain the sense of level of support, but that was not the case
> for these two recent calls.
>
> Ultimately, it’s up to the consensus by the WG participants on what
> documents move forward.  Consensus is not about one set of views simply out
> numbering different views, but something more subtle, more complicated to
> evaluate at times, and not something to rush.
>
> It’s more important to get consensus right than it is to simply push
> ahead, so given that the evaluation of consensus was difficult in these two
> cases,  the chairs are going to move both docs back to Adoption Call status
> and extend the discussion by the ADD group before making the final call on
> adoption for both documents after IETF112.
>
> We’ll add slots on the agenda for both documents to give participants the
> chance to share their views,  and of course discussion and statements
> for/against adoption should continue on the discussion list.
>
>
> Documents under WG Adoption Consideration
> (1) Discovery of Encrypted DNS Resolvers: Deployment Considerations
> (draft-boucadair-add-deployment-considerations-00)
> (2) Split-Horizon DNS Configuration draft
> (draft-reddy-add-enterprise-split-dns-06)
>
> Thanks,
> ADD Chairs – Glenn Deen & David Lawrence,  ADD AD – Eric Vyncke
>
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