Re: [alto] Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-alto-oam-yang-15: (with COMMENT)

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To: Éric Vyncke <evyncke@cisco.com>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
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Thread-Topic: Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-alto-oam-yang-15: (with COMMENT)
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Subject: Re: [alto] Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-alto-oam-yang-15: (with COMMENT)
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Hi Éric, 

Please see two comments inline. I trust the authors will follow-up shortly. 

Cheers,
Med

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Éric Vyncke via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org>
> Envoyé : mercredi 25 octobre 2023 11:50
> À : The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
> Cc : draft-ietf-alto-oam-yang@ietf.org; alto-chairs@ietf.org;
> alto@ietf.org; BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET
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> <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>; jim@rfc1035.com; mellon@fugue.com;
> scott.rose@nist.gov
> Objet : Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-alto-oam-yang-15:
> (with COMMENT)
> 
> Éric Vyncke has entered the following ballot position for
> draft-ietf-alto-oam-yang-15: No Objection
> 
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> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> COMMENT:
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> 
> # Éric Vyncke, INT AD, comments for draft-ietf-alto-oam-yang-15
> 
> Thank you for the work put into this document.
> 
> Please find below some non-blocking COMMENT points (but replies would
> be
> appreciated even if only for my own education).
> 
> Special thanks to Mohamed Boucadair for the shepherd's detailed write-
> up
> including the WG consensus and the justification of the intended
> status.
> 
> Other thanks to Ted Lemon and Scott Rose, the DNS directorate
> reviewers, please
> consider this dns-dir review:
> https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdata
> tracker.ietf.org%2Fdoc%2Freview-ietf-alto-oam-yang-15-dnsdir-telechat-
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> (authors should probably reply on the email thread)
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> (and I have seen authors' reply)
> 
> I hope that this review helps to improve the document,
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -éric
> 
> # COMMENTS
> 
> ## NMDA support
> 
> I often see YANG RFC stating their support (or lack of) NMDA (RFC
> 8342), is
> there any reason why NMDA support is not stated in the text ?
> 

[Med] Good catch. This statement is missing as per RFC8407. Created a PR for the authors at: https://github.com/ietf-wg-alto/draft-ietf-alto-oam-yang/pull/98/files.

> ## Section 3 (comments can be ignored)
> 
> While it does not hurt, several acronyms are really well-known, hence
> no need
> to expand them.
> 
> Is "O&M" really used in other documents ? First time that I see this
> acronym.
> 
> ## Section 5.1
> 
> As the module is prefixed by the ietf-alto namespace, strongly suggest
> to use
> another term than "alto" at the root and even more s/alto-
> client/client/
> s/alto-server/server/
> 
> ## Section 5.3.1.1
> 
> As I am trusting the SEC ADs' reviews, I will not ballot a blocking
> DISCUSS,
> please remove all HTTP (as opposed to HTTPS) in the text and in the
> data model
> itself. Or is "http" used instead of "https" ? But, then why is there
> a "tls"

[Med] The WG had some cycles on this specific point (https://github.com/ietf-wg-alto/draft-ietf-alto-oam-yang/issues/27) This http-listen is echoing what is in https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netconf-restconf-client-server/:

   *  The "transport" choice node enables either the HTTP or HTTPS
      transports to be configured, with each option enabled by a
      "feature" statement.  The HTTP option is provided to support cases
      where a TLS-terminator is deployed in front of the RESTCONF-
      server.

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