Re: [alto] Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-alto-oam-yang-15: (with COMMENT)

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Re-,

Noted. Updated this issue accordingly: https://github.com/ietf-wg-alto/draft-ietf-alto-oam-yang/issues/96.

BTW, your comment about the units helped flagging a bug in the description/reference statements: https://github.com/ietf-wg-alto/draft-ietf-alto-oam-yang/pull/99/files.

Cheers,
Med

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Objet : Re: Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-alto-oam-yang-15: (with COMMENT)

What an efficient shepherd, you are, Med 😊

Thanks for your quick reply, a variation of your text at the bottom about http vs. https would be nice in section 5.3.1.1

Regards

-éric

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Subject: RE: Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-alto-oam-yang-15: (with COMMENT)
Hi Éric,

Please see two comments inline. I trust the authors will follow-up shortly.

Cheers,
Med

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> COMMENT:
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> # Éric Vyncke, INT AD, comments for draft-ietf-alto-oam-yang-15
>
> Thank you for the work put into this document.
>
> Please find below some non-blocking COMMENT points (but replies would
> be
> appreciated even if only for my own education).
>
> Special thanks to Mohamed Boucadair for the shepherd's detailed write-
> up
> including the WG consensus and the justification of the intended
> status.
>
> Other thanks to Ted Lemon and Scott Rose, the DNS directorate
> reviewers, please
> consider this dns-dir review:
> https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdata<https://data/>
> tracker.ietf.org%2Fdoc%2Freview-ietf-alto-oam-yang-15-dnsdir-telechat-
> lemon-2023-10-
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> be4d08dbd53fbb1e%7C90c7a20af34b40bfbc48b9253b6f5d20%7C0%7C0%7C63833824
> 1913951549%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzI
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> PzeiiW8VRgvatJm1RSTBbBQfpvNDU%3D&reserved=0
> (authors should probably reply on the email thread)
> https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdata<https://data/>
> tracker.ietf.org%2Fdoc%2Freview-ietf-alto-oam-yang-14-dnsdir-telechat-
> rose-2023-10-
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> K33uNO1%2BI%2Foi6uOsyxESoDyT337BY%3D&reserved=0
> (and I have seen authors' reply)
>
> I hope that this review helps to improve the document,
>
> Regards,
>
> -éric
>
> # COMMENTS
>
> ## NMDA support
>
> I often see YANG RFC stating their support (or lack of) NMDA (RFC
> 8342), is
> there any reason why NMDA support is not stated in the text ?
>

[Med] Good catch. This statement is missing as per RFC8407. Created a PR for the authors at: https://github.com/ietf-wg-alto/draft-ietf-alto-oam-yang/pull/98/files.

> ## Section 3 (comments can be ignored)
>
> While it does not hurt, several acronyms are really well-known, hence
> no need
> to expand them.
>
> Is "O&M" really used in other documents ? First time that I see this
> acronym.
>
> ## Section 5.1
>
> As the module is prefixed by the ietf-alto namespace, strongly suggest
> to use
> another term than "alto" at the root and even more s/alto-
> client/client/
> s/alto-server/server/
>
> ## Section 5.3.1.1
>
> As I am trusting the SEC ADs' reviews, I will not ballot a blocking
> DISCUSS,
> please remove all HTTP (as opposed to HTTPS) in the text and in the
> data model
> itself. Or is "http" used instead of "https" ? But, then why is there
> a "tls"

[Med] The WG had some cycles on this specific point (https://github.com/ietf-wg-alto/draft-ietf-alto-oam-yang/issues/27). This http-listen is echoing what is in https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netconf-restconf-client-server/:

   *  The "transport" choice node enables either the HTTP or HTTPS
      transports to be configured, with each option enabled by a
      "feature" statement.  The HTTP option is provided to support cases
      where a TLS-terminator is deployed in front of the RESTCONF-
      server.

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