Re: [alto] New draft on use cases for ALTO & CDNs

Richard Alimi <rich@velvetsea.net> Sat, 30 April 2011 15:30 UTC

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Subject: Re: [alto] New draft on use cases for ALTO & CDNs
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On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 11:43 AM, stefano previdi <sprevidi@cisco.com> wrote:
> Ben, Jan, Nabil, Grant, Richard, Richard, Reinaldo,
>
> thinking more about it, I believe the requirements will have to be put
> into a separate draft, for clarity.
>
> I agree with Jan about the duplication of text between alto-cdn and your
> draft so we should merge. Therefore, I'd propose the following plan:
>
> Co-authors of alto-cdn and jenkins draft meet and propose a unified
> use cases description draft. At this stage most of the work will be just
> editorial (cut/paste) as we clearly agree on the content (i.e.: use case
> description).
>
> It would be good to come reasonably soon with a proposal to the WG.
>
> How does it sound ?

This sounds great to me.

Rich

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> s.
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> On Apr 28, 2011, at 8:27 PM, Ben Niven-Jenkins wrote:
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>> Jan, Stefano, Colleagues,
>>
>> On 28 Apr 2011, at 16:30, Jan Medved wrote:
>>>
>>> On 4/28/11 2:58 AM, "stefano previdi" <sprevidi@cisco.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> splitting the current alto-cdn document makes sense to me and we
>>>> need to define:
>>>> a. use cases
>>>> b. requirements
>>>> c. proposed solutions
>>>
>>> This seems to be most logical split.
>>>
>>
>> Agreed.
>>
>>>>
>>>> your draft addresses the use cases and you may want to merge the
>>>> use cases sections we currently have in the alto-cdn draft so to
>>>> focus that one only on the proposed solution(s).
>>>
>>> The first two uses cases in draft-jenkins-cdn-use-cases are described in
>>> draft-penno-alto-cdn. Agreed that the text from draft-penno-alto-cdn
>>> should be merged into the appropriate sections of
>>> draft-jenkins-cdn-use-cases.
>>
>> I'm OK with that. When I read draft-penno-alto-cdn I found it hard to
>> extract text that is pure use case though but if you could provide text or
>> pointers to sections I'm happy to start discussing how we could merge the
>> use case text in draft-penno-alto-cdn with that in
>> draft-jenkins-alto-cdn-use-cases.
>>
>>>> The question is about requirements: do we want to include them
>>>> in one of the two drafts or into a separate document ?
>>
>> My opinion is that the requirements should be documented separately to the
>> solutions. I don't currently have a strong opinion about whether they should
>> be documented in draft-jenkins-alto-cdn-use-cases or a separate draft.
>>
>> Ben
>>
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