Re: [alto] Zaheduzzaman Sarker's Discuss on draft-ietf-alto-oam-yang-15: (with DISCUSS)

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Zahed,

It is a matter of balance between what the WG can successfully deliver vs. exhaustiveness. Proceeding in steps (having first a base module + including provision to graft extension) is pragmatic given the limited resources of the WG.

Please note that the spec relies upon common reusable http models (draft-ietf-netconf-http-client-server) which do not support http/3.

Thank you.

Cheers,
Med

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Objet : Re: Zaheduzzaman Sarker's Discuss on draft-ietf-alto-oam-yang-15: (with DISCUSS)



On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 1:19 PM <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
Hi Zahed,

Please see inline.

Cheers,
Med

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[Med] The scope of this work is to set the base model that adheres to what is specified in the base ALTO spec (see Table 2). As discussed in Section 4.3, the model is designed with the intent to allow future augmentations to cover extensions and new features such as TIPS.

why is it scoped like this when we are also publishing the new transport at the same time?

//Zahed



> Also supporting Roman's discuss. It is very important that we record
> under what
> circumstances ALTO servers are configured to use HTTP instead of
> HTTPS.
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[Med] Noted: https://github.com/ietf-wg-alto/draft-ietf-alto-oam-yang/issues/96
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