Re: [alto] Zaheduzzaman Sarker's Discuss on draft-ietf-alto-oam-yang-15: (with DISCUSS)

Jensen Zhang <jingxuan.n.zhang@gmail.com> Thu, 11 January 2024 03:22 UTC

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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2024 11:21:48 +0800
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Subject: Re: [alto] Zaheduzzaman Sarker's Discuss on draft-ietf-alto-oam-yang-15: (with DISCUSS)
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Hi Zahed,

Sorry for the delay. The new revision has been uploaded to resolve your
comment: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-alto-oam-yang-16

Please let us know if it is enough.

Thanks,
Jensen


On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 5:45 PM Zaheduzzaman Sarker <
zahed.sarker.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for this Med, I am fine with this inclusion.
>
> //Zahed
>
> On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 10:53 AM <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Zahed,
>>
>> > That is understandable, and it this is conscious decision to not cover
>> > the latest and greatest then I would expect the specification describe
>> > that. A statement on the current scope and the potential extendibility
>> > to cover the new ALTO transport will help here.
>>
>> A PR to clarify that TIPS is out of scope can be seen at:
>> https://github.com/ietf-wg-alto/draft-ietf-alto-oam-yang/pull/102/files
>>
>> Please let the WG know if more is needed. Thank you.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Med (doc Shepherd)
>>
>> > -----Message d'origine-----
>> > De : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET
>> > Envoyé : jeudi 26 octobre 2023 17:22
>> > À : 'Zaheduzzaman Sarker' <zahed.sarker.ietf@gmail.com>
>> > Cc : The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>; draft-ietf-alto-oam-yang@ietf.org;
>> > alto-chairs@ietf.org; alto@ietf.org
>> > Objet : RE: Zaheduzzaman Sarker's Discuss on draft-ietf-alto-oam-yang-
>> > 15: (with DISCUSS)
>> >
>> > Re-,
>> >
>> > Please see inline.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Med
>> >
>> > > Zahed,
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > It is a matter of balance between what the WG can successfully
>> > deliver vs.
>> > > exhaustiveness. Proceeding in steps (having first a base module +
>> > > including provision to graft extension) is pragmatic given the
>> > limited
>> > > resources of the WG.
>> > >
>> >
>> > That is understandable, and it this is conscious decision to not cover
>> > the latest and greatest then I would expect the specification describe
>> > that. A statement on the current scope and the potential extendibility
>> > to cover the new ALTO transport will help here.
>> >
>> > Med: Looks good to be me. Added an issue to record this:
>> > https://github.com/ietf-wg-alto/draft-ietf-alto-oam-yang/issues/101
>> >
>> >
>> >  I have seen other YANG documents do that when they are not covering
>> > for example QUIC.
>> >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Please note that the spec relies upon common reusable http models
>> > > (draft-ietf-netconf-http-client-server) which do not support http/3.
>> > >
>> >
>> > Noted, those are still in draft I guess and we can ask question why
>> > they support HTTP/3 while they are working on it. There might be valid
>> > reason for doing it , and important thing is to acknowledge it.
>> >
>> > Med: I would be surprised if that draft is changed to cover HTTP/3
>> > given that it was there since 2019 and it would be great to finalize
>> > it given the set of I-Ds that depends on it:
>> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netconf-http-client-
>> > server/referencedby/.
>> >
>> >
>> > //Zahed
>>
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