Re: [alto] Zaheduzzaman Sarker's Discuss on draft-ietf-alto-oam-yang-15: (with DISCUSS)

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To: Zaheduzzaman Sarker <zahed.sarker.ietf@gmail.com>
CC: The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>, "draft-ietf-alto-oam-yang@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-alto-oam-yang@ietf.org>, "alto-chairs@ietf.org" <alto-chairs@ietf.org>, "alto@ietf.org" <alto@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: Zaheduzzaman Sarker's Discuss on draft-ietf-alto-oam-yang-15: (with DISCUSS)
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Subject: Re: [alto] Zaheduzzaman Sarker's Discuss on draft-ietf-alto-oam-yang-15: (with DISCUSS)
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Hi Zahed, 

> That is understandable, and it this is conscious decision to not cover
> the latest and greatest then I would expect the specification describe
> that. A statement on the current scope and the potential extendibility
> to cover the new ALTO transport will help here.

A PR to clarify that TIPS is out of scope can be seen at: https://github.com/ietf-wg-alto/draft-ietf-alto-oam-yang/pull/102/files 

Please let the WG know if more is needed. Thank you.

Cheers,
Med (doc Shepherd)

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET
> Envoyé : jeudi 26 octobre 2023 17:22
> À : 'Zaheduzzaman Sarker' <zahed.sarker.ietf@gmail.com>
> Cc : The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>; draft-ietf-alto-oam-yang@ietf.org;
> alto-chairs@ietf.org; alto@ietf.org
> Objet : RE: Zaheduzzaman Sarker's Discuss on draft-ietf-alto-oam-yang-
> 15: (with DISCUSS)
> 
> Re-,
> 
> Please see inline.
> 
> Cheers,
> Med
> 
> > Zahed,
> >
> >
> >
> > It is a matter of balance between what the WG can successfully
> deliver vs.
> > exhaustiveness. Proceeding in steps (having first a base module +
> > including provision to graft extension) is pragmatic given the
> limited
> > resources of the WG.
> >
> 
> That is understandable, and it this is conscious decision to not cover
> the latest and greatest then I would expect the specification describe
> that. A statement on the current scope and the potential extendibility
> to cover the new ALTO transport will help here.
> 
> Med: Looks good to be me. Added an issue to record this:
> https://github.com/ietf-wg-alto/draft-ietf-alto-oam-yang/issues/101
> 
> 
>  I have seen other YANG documents do that when they are not covering
> for example QUIC.
> 
> >
> >
> > Please note that the spec relies upon common reusable http models
> > (draft-ietf-netconf-http-client-server) which do not support http/3.
> >
> 
> Noted, those are still in draft I guess and we can ask question why
> they support HTTP/3 while they are working on it. There might be valid
> reason for doing it , and important thing is to acknowledge it.
> 
> Med: I would be surprised if that draft is changed to cover HTTP/3
> given that it was there since 2019 and it would be great to finalize
> it given the set of I-Ds that depends on it:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netconf-http-client-
> server/referencedby/.
> 
> 
> //Zahed
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