Re: [alto] Issue I: Specify behavior of degenerated map filtering service

Richard Alimi <rich@velvetsea.net> Fri, 15 February 2013 06:10 UTC

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Subject: Re: [alto] Issue I: Specify behavior of degenerated map filtering service
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Agreed.


On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 6:29 AM, Wendy Roome <w.roome@alcatel-lucent.com>wrote:

> I'm in favor of returning the complete map, rather than generating a error.
>
> Why?  Because errors are annoying to implement, and they're annoying to
> test in a bake-off. So whenever practical, I prefer to legislate errors
> out of existence by using reasonable defaults.
>
>         - Wendy Roome
>
>
> >Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 23:03:56 +0000
> >From: "Reinaldo Penno (repenno)" <repenno@cisco.com>
> >To: "alto@ietf.org" <alto@ietf.org>
> >Subject: [alto] ALTO Protocol Outstanding Issue I: Specify behavior of
> >       degenerated map filtering service
> >Message-ID:
> >       <45A697A8FFD7CF48BCF2BE7E106F060408FF52D6@xmb-rcd-x04.cisco.com>
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> >Discussion I:  Specify behaviors of degenerated map filtering service
> >
> >Do we enforce non-empty PID/AddressType? If protocol allows empty there
> >are two possible design choices: default to complete map or reporting an
> >Error
> >
> >Proposal going forward: Return complete Map.
> >
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Reinaldo
>
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