Re: [Anima] Adoption call on draft-eckert-anima-brski-discovery-01 by 2024/2/23rd

William Atwood <william.atwood@concordia.ca> Tue, 13 February 2024 17:53 UTC

Return-Path: <william.atwood@concordia.ca>
X-Original-To: anima@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: anima@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B20BC151520; Tue, 13 Feb 2024 09:53:16 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.906
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.906 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, RCVD_IN_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, URIBL_DBL_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001, URIBL_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=liveconcordia.onmicrosoft.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([50.223.129.194]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OxifA6wjLuVy; Tue, 13 Feb 2024 09:53:12 -0800 (PST)
Received: from CAN01-YQB-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-yqbcan01on2127.outbound.protection.outlook.com [40.107.116.127]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 787CAC151095; Tue, 13 Feb 2024 09:53:12 -0800 (PST)
ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; s=arcselector9901; d=microsoft.com; cv=none; b=SE+z3SoPOv1AkAVarzJIvX7fWt+HGgzKvI0NJnt+M8bx/D+aRDyULuLNjqclBIj+Io+DCGMgIgHi+9s7X9UoeHkpc4YByK5FaRxiyqyNVNiOTnw0oI3AJsQL29K3uJP492eEnGP8YbI8btTeRhq/JSXClw+KMrlsuHyarg5hThyjUxV77r46y459ohYU5FboA9K1oT286EEmye3fb4Td1C2d4izkQjKOe44VuBClTnXqz1u3y7uyyIms0yqcECekzazVlayiyAGrUFzRBv5ehEq9yYhaP9wBzinSZ3uU0u22PvVo15cFCA57Km5r4tfUg8Uk0vqz50WwlpEXFwR1PQ==
ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=microsoft.com; s=arcselector9901; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-ChunkCount:X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-0:X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-1; bh=i7R0m89nRvzmliorOmForEG5T2h0ObZpLIR54lFm4HY=; b=E0ZXBAilqlEXbxdLEjvFh+TePYa0bUbapIy/iI+XErB5s8zZQ8PvzjJBb8KibDifcJU65q7xplCbJMIZzBHz/g42ZSx6NArJv230aIKo9FTFM8KHHnmRxSppwnbJsprIJ+9eRvOaPe+ohAgz9chG4N99xJpP601tsZtm7+rIwr3W+aarwI0Nk1i8JTRGxcDKnml6O8WBDNZiT1lNHDTm9lJzF3/nNNpN3d1Q5NBp1V0j0Mqw907ew4bA3jXMGGKH8zZEGiEoDkrrTquHYWwNqttlj8vNJUc1eHDGMUF/cvmPY4SMo9gR1YeN3ACNnfgIu15ZEa3T14VirmNMJ89zlQ==
ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.microsoft.com 1; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=concordia.ca; dmarc=pass action=none header.from=concordia.ca; dkim=pass header.d=concordia.ca; arc=none
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=liveconcordia.onmicrosoft.com; s=selector2-liveconcordia-onmicrosoft-com; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=i7R0m89nRvzmliorOmForEG5T2h0ObZpLIR54lFm4HY=; b=fQlJQnHK9fRXufiXzyCUqX+RG41qQDqk9FDjw5YN/3hY0R7GNE6FQ2wbTqivyvVOagFaZMAn9C1PRrfjFiyTLx423NSPXo8f9NqGTH0n3Xe1zwDkj78L+zJ+9T7g19keS1pQKjxoNyAkLqBWeAw0lBDE+7o602e4LYSoMbdDVK8=
Authentication-Results: dkim=none (message not signed) header.d=none;dmarc=none action=none header.from=concordia.ca;
Received: from YQBPR0101MB4115.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM (2603:10b6:c01:13::18) by YQXPR01MB6012.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM (2603:10b6:c01:29::14) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.7270.40; Tue, 13 Feb 2024 17:53:09 +0000
Received: from YQBPR0101MB4115.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM ([fe80::4b05:1f49:2621:d903]) by YQBPR0101MB4115.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM ([fe80::4b05:1f49:2621:d903%6]) with mapi id 15.20.7292.022; Tue, 13 Feb 2024 17:53:09 +0000
Message-ID: <c6ad7a58-d169-44ba-a0fc-7e5380e159b1@concordia.ca>
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2024 12:53:08 -0500
User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
Content-Language: en-CA
To: Sheng JIANG <shengjiang@bupt.edu.cn>, anima <anima@ietf.org>
Cc: anima-chairs <anima-chairs@ietf.org>, rwilton <rwilton@cisco.com>
References: <62EA95A4FE29C4CF+2024020916285484223717@bupt.edu.cn>
From: William Atwood <william.atwood@concordia.ca>
Autocrypt: addr=william.atwood@concordia.ca; keydata= xsDiBEmjdrMRBADawl3I6QQW9RTYKHQk0tMhjbbgi7clCKZzmgTOOHKYDil9J68+xyTdXlBT ud5crBx2kYf334Uf5fOBNBh6Z/3kUr2qkvVHXAp+yox81wao8pBwQ5wcnhPmnGhpsapCMeBA 3deiCQfvd9AVygrNZOJvW526PIHiNvob2pDT4ef0iwCgroVoHugkt+84Ly3jL9lcFFmqW38D /2exybJrzefDFGHExaQinYRwIovHhdilirh3k6BcRaS6xWUbWsra+w0OSQWCt+Ooaj6Zmeio 13U5lybjD4M0Se7TI0AW6JJsHot3x69/2Uq2OWb1cddezafZ4+vlNybC5LZ+tynTVt2RB7lE Yy34W9kTWIHsaFOLUjDaZW+ScpKoA/9yXM3FY7hUTBEgP5+CUyX4zYsnxtmeurhVi4D3Ri1e TRQhE/WxaVsxxqJuFNx/rzOPwnekWa06cb4mKYHJ6HJ/q1hjSCOvhlSUgLwQ6XiqYW/dulfL ulq6d9w01gApWPNdaimLOnZi/Of52YO7RZroSNPBwC71hOxzQCzeHZLgaM0xSm9obiBXaWxs aWFtIEF0d29vZCA8d2lsbGlhbS5hdHdvb2RAY29uY29yZGlhLmNhPsJgBBMRAgAgBQJQuRFJ AhsjBgsJCAcDAgQVAggDBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQV5o4IdDwBVhHKwCdEHYReMmaDbwWmc9F zL8qz6KYoTIAoKo4vZC+F8raUuQSECRjG5sv+0r5zsFNBEmjdrMQCACDziZLszCCtC0i195v C7UlKnKEE7rLKP+tzpJuPb6EW27xBtJ2cr6RXZQ84rrHvgczmhaht7kUPyyAFVUG2pbK9vOB Pcurdimtz4cc5FJ6v2wi9NoNaxag8MY2WYYzH7Fs4Bh7ZK7B6pR/lYVNltu8vxT7MO4pk+jj DaKkYU4VlN9dWrwTapmBbYafdOHhxnvxYrr3TsLdpYbGiucDwLtWGgd7+jx9LUT9tStgRgSY pwULZbQWHjSGRAXHtOzsk01TcTUP+rzbqteQ+3n867848rnJxoOWdOF73TR32dif0osfDAr4 EuHHSkRI8a7me8zcVVZGhjQsp6JGsnhKO0AfAAMFB/9Cym72Z7nNw4ewqhVAVPal+tQGzkyh 1S8vTEo6GdOK7eapc1OaSK7YCAS6UmFVTgoAjRBUPA5L7aLorSUXwzjZ7X26Pn2ywlnIc8+7 AlbeGnggEg1h95QQTly+xU3ZEiBF0LhhyAwpISqGiz7zq44w2pqAxnAiKNX2xZxjHdZ+yDMx T86Yj/U7K6ITv4/GwygS7bMt9+wXYRzvr9gHr5jKMEsTeIJHi5UNWLYfpfmhyF6sZ3KTqHFV AZ6yu2xDuAEhnIWaOUC2+Z9XHLMvgSrxIleqkKJiWZbAc9C1F/iV+DeQ7rNPNg9pN2KrimkV fjdMTCwORUeeGprBurp3wCy/wkkEGBECAAkFAkmjdrMCGwwACgkQV5o4IdDwBVgd9gCgj4uB iifVyw2tgzoOyHZvYHKKVLoAoKlDy0JcK5o8mkJxVQw9eQajyuNw
In-Reply-To: <62EA95A4FE29C4CF+2024020916285484223717@bupt.edu.cn>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format="flowed"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-ClientProxiedBy: YT4PR01CA0103.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM (2603:10b6:b01:d7::28) To YQBPR0101MB4115.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM (2603:10b6:c01:13::18)
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-MS-PublicTrafficType: Email
X-MS-TrafficTypeDiagnostic: YQBPR0101MB4115:EE_|YQXPR01MB6012:EE_
X-MS-Office365-Filtering-Correlation-Id: e0eb4451-8eba-499e-3dc0-08dc2cbca3e2
X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck: 1
X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-Relay: 0
X-Microsoft-Antispam: BCL:0;
X-Microsoft-Antispam-Message-Info: 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
X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:255.255.255.255; CTRY:; LANG:en; SCL:1; SRV:; IPV:NLI; SFV:NSPM; H:YQBPR0101MB4115.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM; PTR:; CAT:NONE; SFS:(13230031)(396003)(346002)(376002)(136003)(366004)(39860400002)(230922051799003)(451199024)(186009)(64100799003)(1800799012)(31696002)(36756003)(40140700001)(86362001)(66476007)(6486002)(6506007)(966005)(4326008)(6512007)(66574015)(66946007)(8676002)(8936002)(66556008)(53546011)(38100700002)(478600001)(26005)(2616005)(316002)(786003)(31686004)(5660300002)(44832011)(41300700001)(110136005)(54906003)(2906002); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102;
X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-ChunkCount: 1
X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-0: 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
X-OriginatorOrg: concordia.ca
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: e0eb4451-8eba-499e-3dc0-08dc2cbca3e2
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: YQBPR0101MB4115.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Internal
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Feb 2024 17:53:09.7728 (UTC)
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: Hosted
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Id: 5569f185-d22f-4e13-9850-ce5b1abcd2e8
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-MailboxType: HOSTED
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-UserPrincipalName: IXAQ8xK01sv2d8IlvGOo67BVaPpGwWXDGZ+DzmHWwHxU0NhzZVtXv+wxx4nkMniV4kmz8/y0a4YPwZ8fSzv5/h9L//tlMb5yvpmTFcBPacw=
X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: YQXPR01MB6012
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/anima/9sPz7TwIbykSXJmUXRbYXobVGDo>
Subject: Re: [Anima] Adoption call on draft-eckert-anima-brski-discovery-01 by 2024/2/23rd
X-BeenThere: anima@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.39
Precedence: list
List-Id: Autonomic Networking Integrated Model and Approach <anima.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/anima>, <mailto:anima-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/anima/>
List-Post: <mailto:anima@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:anima-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/anima>, <mailto:anima-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2024 17:53:16 -0000

I have read the document, and I support its adoption by the WG.

I also second the comments given by Brian, Michael, and Steffen.

Finally, I believe that an important first goal will be to resolve all 
of the references to "Section 1", because it is very difficult to 
understand the alternatives being listed when they are all called 
"Section 1".

   Bill

On 2/9/2024 3:28 AM, Sheng JIANG wrote:
> Attention This email originates from outside the concordia.ca domain. // Ce courriel provient de l'extérieur du domaine de concordia.ca
> 
> Hi, ANIMAers,
> 
> This email starts a two-week adoption call on draft-eckert-anima-brski-discovery-01. It ends by 2024/2/23rd.
> 
> This draft is not new as normal -01 individual draft. It is coalesced from the discovery options parts of several ANIMA WG documents:
> 
>      draft-ietf-anima-brski-prm
>      draft-ietf-anima-brski-ae
>      draft-ietf-anima-brski-constrained-voucher
>      draft-ietf-anima-brski-constrained-proxy
> 
> 
> It has been introduced and discussed during the Prague meeting. Hence, the ANIMA chairs think it has a reasonable good foundation for adoption. Please express your opinions on whether this document is meaningful for our ANIMA WG by the ending time 2024/2/23rd. The writing quality of this document is a late consideration after WG adoption.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Sheng JIANG
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Anima mailing list
> Anima@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/anima>> 

-- 
Dr. J.W. Atwood, Eng.             tel:   +1 (514) 848-2424 x3046
Distinguished Professor Emeritus  fax:   +1 (514) 848-2830
Department of Computer Science
    and Software Engineering
Concordia University ER 1234      email:william.atwood@concordia.ca
1455 de Maisonneuve Blvd. West    http://users.encs.concordia.ca/~bill
Montreal, Quebec Canada H3G 1M8