Re: [Apn] FW: A new draft on APN for your review, thank you!

[James Guichard <[e-mail]>]

Hi Shuping,

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From: Pengshuping (Peng Shuping) <[e-mail]>
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Subject: RE: [Apn] FW: A new draft on APN for your review, thank you!

Hi James,

Many thanks for your detailed review! I have accepted most of your comments and suggestions, which are very helpful. Thank you!

About the following two points, I would like to know about your opinions.


1.       I would like to still keep one identifier since we aim to have one composite APN identifier which includes several fields instead of having them as separate identifiers.

Jim> perhaps I was unclear in my comments. The point is that the identifier can represent > 1 "entity" dependent upon the use case. It may be a single identifier "value" but it should be clear that that value may represent more than a single requirement. If you use the wording "composite APN identifier" then I think this is clearer.


2.       I did not explicitly add the "data plane" because the APN identifier will also be exchanged in the control plane to facilitate the service provisioning (e.g. traffic steering and performance measurement, etc.).

Jim> true and fair enough.

Please find the updated BoF description.
https://trac.tools.ietf.org/bof/trac/wiki/WikiStart<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftrac.tools.ietf.org%2Fbof%2Ftrac%2Fwiki%2FWikiStart&data=04%7C01%7Cjames.n.guichard%40futurewei.com%7C6618f31adebe4b33616008d8c26cd918%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C0%7C637473120074542537%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=11d%2FYq9JsFmuBEgJxtwqBJuT57RAEEjQtl4r1WTMxWY%3D&reserved=0>

Please find the updated draft attached (diff) as well as in the APN Github.
https://github.com/APN-Community/APN-Scope-Gap-Analysis<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2FAPN-Community%2FAPN-Scope-Gap-Analysis&data=04%7C01%7Cjames.n.guichard%40futurewei.com%7C6618f31adebe4b33616008d8c26cd918%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C0%7C637473120074542537%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=IM6SWEaZfTyuGeDqnRsJrwNw%2FI7WQ02JyqkWJl1p77U%3D&reserved=0>

Thank you!

Best regards,
Shuping


From: James Guichard [mailto:[e-mail]]
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Subject: RE: [Apn] FW: A new draft on APN for your review, thank you!

Hi Shuping,

Attached some comments and minor editorial corrections that I hope you will find useful.

Thanks!

Jim

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Subject: [Apn] FW: A new draft on APN for your review, thank you!

Dear authors,

We have updated the APN BoF Proposal as attached. The suggestions in your draft and the discussions with you offline inspired us a lot. The support of the user/app group is explicitly shown in the text although it was implicitly included. We have made a lot of efforts on clarifying the scope of the work, introducing the basic solution, and describing the concrete use case. Please advise whether we are clear now and how we can improve further, especially on the privacy concerns. Thank you!

This posted draft, https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-peng-apn-scope-gap-analysis<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdatatracker.ietf.org%2Fdoc%2Fhtml%2Fdraft-peng-apn-scope-gap-analysis&data=04%7C01%7Cjames.n.guichard%40futurewei.com%7C6618f31adebe4b33616008d8c26cd918%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C0%7C637473120074552532%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=YbIvQ5%2BqaZ%2F3pdP0bORohEFHnEpqyc0SUxkYu6WvPVs%3D&reserved=0>, would be able to give you more complete information. Please also refer to the recent discussions in the archives https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/apn/<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmailarchive.ietf.org%2Farch%2Fbrowse%2Fapn%2F&data=04%7C01%7Cjames.n.guichard%40futurewei.com%7C6618f31adebe4b33616008d8c26cd918%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C0%7C637473120074552532%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=VWpJ1hWJOLKpxMGa%2BR7%2FRDnDPOng5fYbXo8Kq9j4T1Y%3D&reserved=0> if you have not subscribed the APN mailing list yet. Based on discussions and suggestions we received, we will update this draft accordingly. Your reviews and comments will be very much appreciated.

Thank you!

Best regards,
Shuping



From: Apn [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Pengshuping (Peng Shuping)
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 11:12 AM
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Subject: [Apn] A new draft on APN for your review, thank you!


Dear all,



A new draft on APN has been posted, https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-peng-apn-scope-gap-analysis<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdatatracker.ietf.org%2Fdoc%2Fhtml%2Fdraft-peng-apn-scope-gap-analysis&data=04%7C01%7Cjames.n.guichard%40futurewei.com%7C6618f31adebe4b33616008d8c26cd918%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C0%7C637473120074562528%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Z1Am4g4glUXFQN%2B9nCa5EfT%2BSv72y2uePbabIfaBbtc%3D&reserved=0>.



In this draft, we clarified the scope of the APN work in IETF, introduced an example use case and the basic solution. Moreover, we compared with the existing "similar" work/solutions and did corresponding gap analysis.



Your review and comments are very much appreciated. Thank you!



Best regards,

Shuping





A new version of I-D, draft-peng-apn-scope-gap-analysis-00.txt

has been successfully submitted by Shuping Peng and posted to the IETF repository.



Name:              draft-peng-apn-scope-gap-analysis

Revision: 00

Title:                 APN Scope and Gap Analysis

Document date:      2020-12-16

Group:              Individual Submission

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Abstract:

   The APN work in IETF is focused on developing a framework and set of

   mechanisms to derive, convey and use an identifier to allow for

   implementing fine-grain user-, application-, and service-level

   requirements at the network layer.  This document describes the scope

   of the APN work and the solution gap analysis.