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Dave Thaler <dthaler@microsoft.com> Fri, 26 September 2014 18:49 UTC

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From: Dave Thaler <dthaler@microsoft.com>
To: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com>, Benjamin Young <byoung@bigbluehat.com>
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Those registrations were part of the “URI Bulk Third-Party Registration Experiment”.
For more info on that experiment, see the slides from IETF 85:
http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/85/slides/slides-85-iri-8.pdf

-Dave

From: apps-discuss [mailto:apps-discuss-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Melvin Carvalho
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 4:55 AM
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Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] IRC URIs to denote users



On 23 September 2014 01:45, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com<mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Melvin,
The current IANA URI Schemes registry includes the following
three schemes:

irc

prov/irc<http://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes/prov/irc>

irc

[Dave_Thaler<http://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes/uri-schemes.xhtml#Dave_Thaler>]

irc6

prov/irc6<http://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes/prov/irc6>

irc6

[Dave_Thaler<http://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes/uri-schemes.xhtml#Dave_Thaler>]

ircs

prov/ircs<http://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes/prov/ircs>

ircs

[Dave_Thaler<http://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes/uri-schemes.xhtml#Dave_Thaler>]


All three of those are September 2012 provisional registrations
(with references that include butcher and draft-mirashi-url-irc-01).

Thanks for the info!
Both the referenced specs seem quite old.  I think there was a time when Dave Thaler just put a ton of URI specs in the provisional queue, without necessarily major updates.
It's still not 100% clear what the best pattern is, if any.
Unless there's an objection may I propose:

irc://user@host/
This is very much in line with the work of Ben Young (cc'd)

http://userinfo.me/
Who proposes a neat way to get user profile info via HTTP as:
http://user@host/
I believe the intention of this is to write an RFC, so I'd like to align future work with that if possible


Cheers,
- Ira

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On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com<mailto:melvincarvalho@gmail.com>> wrote:
I was wondering if IRC URIs are standardized at all?
The latest I found was :

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-butcher-irc-url-04
I have a use case of marking reputation from one system (web chat room) to an IRC chat room, but I require an identifier for the user.
The suggestions so far have been:
irc://user@host
irc://user@host/ -- trailing slash
irc:user@host -- similar to xmpp
irc://host/#user -- fragment could be problematic as per RFC 9386
I've gone with the second option for the moment

Any pointers would be most welcome.


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