Re: [apps-discuss] IRC URIs to denote users

On 23 September 2014 17:05, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Melvin,
>
> Note that the "user" production is NOT present in the IANA provisionally
> registered "irc" scheme.  I suspect you'll receive quite a lot of pushback
> from the IETF and W3C URI review lists if you want to change the syntax.
>
> I respectfully suggest that you change the scheme name for your usage
> to "ircu" (for example) to avoid all that grief (and collisions with
> existing
> "irc" scheme parsing code).
>

Thanks for the response.

My issue is that I'm not even sure this work is on any kind of standards
track.

Going back to 1996 we have:

http://www.w3.org/Addressing/draft-mirashi-url-irc-01.txt

For example.

  The URL

      irc:///Mmmm!mandar@*uoknor.edu,isnick

    references a person with nickname Mmmm, and user@host matching
    mandar@*uoknor.edu on the default IRC server.

Note: that this has been seemingly unresolved for 18 years.

My intention is to try and gather a rough consensus here, to see if there's
an obvious path to take, or an obvious path not to take, then implement
through running code, which is already working.

Minting a new URI scheme for these use case, seems perhaps overkill, but
I'm open to that suggestion.

I hope that makes sense!

>
> Cheers,
> - Ira
>
>
> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
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>
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 7:55 AM, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 23 September 2014 01:45, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Melvin,
>>>
>>> The current IANA URI Schemes registry includes the following
>>> three schemes:
>>>
>>> irc prov/irc <http://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes/prov/irc> irc
>>> [Dave_Thaler
>>> <http://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes/uri-schemes.xhtml#Dave_Thaler>
>>> ]  irc6 prov/irc6
>>> <http://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes/prov/irc6> irc6 [
>>> Dave_Thaler
>>> <http://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes/uri-schemes.xhtml#Dave_Thaler>
>>> ]  ircs prov/ircs
>>> <http://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes/prov/ircs> ircs [
>>> Dave_Thaler
>>> <http://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes/uri-schemes.xhtml#Dave_Thaler>
>>> ]
>>> All three of those are September 2012 provisional registrations
>>> (with references that include butcher and draft-mirashi-url-irc-01).
>>>
>>
>> Thanks for the info!
>>
>> Both the referenced specs seem quite old.  I think there was a time when
>> Dave Thaler just put a ton of URI specs in the provisional queue, without
>> necessarily major updates.
>>
>> It's still not 100% clear what the best pattern is, if any.
>>
>> Unless there's an objection may I propose:
>>
>> irc://user@host/
>>
>> This is very much in line with the work of Ben Young (cc'd)
>>
>> http://userinfo.me/
>>
>> Who proposes a neat way to get user profile info via HTTP as:
>>
>> http://user@host/
>>
>> I believe the intention of this is to write an RFC, so I'd like to align
>> future work with that if possible
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> - Ira
>>>
>>>
>>> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
>>> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
>>> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
>>> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
>>> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
>>> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
>>> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
>>> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
>>> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
>>> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
>>> Winter  579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  734-944-0094
>>> Summer  PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Melvin Carvalho <
>>> melvincarvalho@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was wondering if IRC URIs are standardized at all?
>>>>
>>>> The latest I found was :
>>>>
>>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-butcher-irc-url-04
>>>>
>>>> I have a use case of marking reputation from one system (web chat room)
>>>> to an IRC chat room, but I require an identifier for the user.
>>>>
>>>> The suggestions so far have been:
>>>>
>>>> irc://user@host
>>>> irc://user@host/ -- trailing slash
>>>> irc:user@host -- similar to xmpp
>>>> irc://host/#user -- fragment could be problematic as per RFC 9386
>>>>
>>>> I've gone with the second option for the moment
>>>>
>>>> Any pointers would be most welcome.
>>>>
>>>>
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