Re: [apps-discuss] IRC URIs to denote users

Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> Tue, 23 September 2014 15:05 UTC

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Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] IRC URIs to denote users
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Hi Melvin,

Note that the "user" production is NOT present in the IANA provisionally
registered "irc" scheme.  I suspect you'll receive quite a lot of pushback
from the IETF and W3C URI review lists if you want to change the syntax.

I respectfully suggest that you change the scheme name for your usage
to "ircu" (for example) to avoid all that grief (and collisions with
existing
"irc" scheme parsing code).

Cheers,
- Ira


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On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 7:55 AM, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>
> On 23 September 2014 01:45, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Melvin,
>>
>> The current IANA URI Schemes registry includes the following
>> three schemes:
>>
>> irc prov/irc <http://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes/prov/irc> irc [
>> Dave_Thaler
>> <http://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes/uri-schemes.xhtml#Dave_Thaler>
>> ]  irc6 prov/irc6 <http://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes/prov/irc6>
>> irc6 [Dave_Thaler
>> <http://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes/uri-schemes.xhtml#Dave_Thaler>
>> ]  ircs prov/ircs <http://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes/prov/ircs>
>> ircs [Dave_Thaler
>> <http://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes/uri-schemes.xhtml#Dave_Thaler>
>> ]
>> All three of those are September 2012 provisional registrations
>> (with references that include butcher and draft-mirashi-url-irc-01).
>>
>
> Thanks for the info!
>
> Both the referenced specs seem quite old.  I think there was a time when
> Dave Thaler just put a ton of URI specs in the provisional queue, without
> necessarily major updates.
>
> It's still not 100% clear what the best pattern is, if any.
>
> Unless there's an objection may I propose:
>
> irc://user@host/
>
> This is very much in line with the work of Ben Young (cc'd)
>
> http://userinfo.me/
>
> Who proposes a neat way to get user profile info via HTTP as:
>
> http://user@host/
>
> I believe the intention of this is to write an RFC, so I'd like to align
> future work with that if possible
>
>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> - Ira
>>
>>
>> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
>> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
>> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
>> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
>> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
>> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
>> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
>> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
>> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
>> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
>> Winter  579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  734-944-0094
>> Summer  PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Melvin Carvalho <
>> melvincarvalho@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I was wondering if IRC URIs are standardized at all?
>>>
>>> The latest I found was :
>>>
>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-butcher-irc-url-04
>>>
>>> I have a use case of marking reputation from one system (web chat room)
>>> to an IRC chat room, but I require an identifier for the user.
>>>
>>> The suggestions so far have been:
>>>
>>> irc://user@host
>>> irc://user@host/ -- trailing slash
>>> irc:user@host -- similar to xmpp
>>> irc://host/#user -- fragment could be problematic as per RFC 9386
>>>
>>> I've gone with the second option for the moment
>>>
>>> Any pointers would be most welcome.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>