Re: [apps-discuss] IRC URIs to denote users
Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> Tue, 23 September 2014 15:05 UTC
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Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] IRC URIs to denote users
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Hi Melvin, Note that the "user" production is NOT present in the IANA provisionally registered "irc" scheme. I suspect you'll receive quite a lot of pushback from the IETF and W3C URI review lists if you want to change the syntax. I respectfully suggest that you change the scheme name for your usage to "ircu" (for example) to avoid all that grief (and collisions with existing "irc" scheme parsing code). Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 7:55 AM, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 23 September 2014 01:45, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Melvin, >> >> The current IANA URI Schemes registry includes the following >> three schemes: >> >> irc prov/irc <http://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes/prov/irc> irc [ >> Dave_Thaler >> <http://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes/uri-schemes.xhtml#Dave_Thaler> >> ] irc6 prov/irc6 <http://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes/prov/irc6> >> irc6 [Dave_Thaler >> <http://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes/uri-schemes.xhtml#Dave_Thaler> >> ] ircs prov/ircs <http://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes/prov/ircs> >> ircs [Dave_Thaler >> <http://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes/uri-schemes.xhtml#Dave_Thaler> >> ] >> All three of those are September 2012 provisional registrations >> (with references that include butcher and draft-mirashi-url-irc-01). >> > > Thanks for the info! > > Both the referenced specs seem quite old. I think there was a time when > Dave Thaler just put a ton of URI specs in the provisional queue, without > necessarily major updates. > > It's still not 100% clear what the best pattern is, if any. > > Unless there's an objection may I propose: > > irc://user@host/ > > This is very much in line with the work of Ben Young (cc'd) > > http://userinfo.me/ > > Who proposes a neat way to get user profile info via HTTP as: > > http://user@host/ > > I believe the intention of this is to write an RFC, so I'd like to align > future work with that if possible > > >> >> Cheers, >> - Ira >> >> >> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) >> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG >> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG >> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group >> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG >> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB >> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc >> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic >> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc >> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com >> Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 >> Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Melvin Carvalho < >> melvincarvalho@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I was wondering if IRC URIs are standardized at all? >>> >>> The latest I found was : >>> >>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-butcher-irc-url-04 >>> >>> I have a use case of marking reputation from one system (web chat room) >>> to an IRC chat room, but I require an identifier for the user. >>> >>> The suggestions so far have been: >>> >>> irc://user@host >>> irc://user@host/ -- trailing slash >>> irc:user@host -- similar to xmpp >>> irc://host/#user -- fragment could be problematic as per RFC 9386 >>> >>> I've gone with the second option for the moment >>> >>> Any pointers would be most welcome. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> apps-discuss mailing list >>> apps-discuss@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/apps-discuss >>> >>> >> >
- [apps-discuss] IRC URIs to denote users Melvin Carvalho
- Re: [apps-discuss] IRC URIs to denote users Ira McDonald
- Re: [apps-discuss] IRC URIs to denote users Melvin Carvalho
- Re: [apps-discuss] IRC URIs to denote users Ira McDonald
- Re: [apps-discuss] IRC URIs to denote users Melvin Carvalho
- Re: [apps-discuss] IRC URIs to denote users Sean Leonard
- Re: [apps-discuss] IRC URIs to denote users Larry Masinter
- Re: [apps-discuss] IRC URIs to denote users Melvin Carvalho
- Re: [apps-discuss] IRC URIs to denote users Melvin Carvalho
- Re: [apps-discuss] IRC URIs to denote users Dave Thaler