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Re: [apps-discuss] FW: New Version Notification for draft-thaler-uri-scheme-reg-ps-00.txt

Dave Thaler <dthaler@microsoft.com> Thu, 10 October 2013 15:16 UTC

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From: Dave Thaler <dthaler@microsoft.com>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bjoern Hoehrmann [mailto:derhoermi@gmx.net]
> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 8:04 AM
> To: Dave Thaler
> Cc: apps-discuss@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] FW: New Version Notification for draft-thaler-uri-
> scheme-reg-ps-00.txt
> 
> * Dave Thaler wrote:
> >Htmlized:        http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-thaler-uri-scheme-reg-ps-00
> 
> In section 2.1 you write "What if all new applications being submitted to an
> app store started sending requests for Provisional URI schemes?"
> 
> That would seem to be a spam or denial of service attack scenario, not
> people just following best practises, it would seem. Why would we need, or
> what good would it do, to have more than a couple of hundred schemes?

As noted elsewhere in the doc, it's unlikely since there's little/no incentive
to register anyway.

> At some point schemes are not sufficiently distinct to warrant multiple top
> level names.

The quoted guidance about private name spaces is the obvious counter
argument to that (it has wording issues but the intent is valid).

> Rather than changing registration guidelines it might be better
> to tell people to deploy better delegation mechanisms. An OS that can
> dispatch based on the scheme name, but not on anything else in addresses,
> is clearly broken, for instance.

I'd say that ship has already sailed.  If you want to suggest a solution, by all means
write a draft.  This document is just the problem statement.

-Dave

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