Re: [apps-discuss] FW: New Version Notification for draft-thaler-uri-scheme-reg-ps-00.txt
Dave Thaler <dthaler@microsoft.com> Fri, 11 October 2013 17:50 UTC
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Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] FW: New Version Notification for draft-thaler-uri-scheme-reg-ps-00.txt
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Yes, I know, I've reviewed that document many times. I considered referencing it in my draft but ended up deleting references to it because it didn't really change the problem statement. I could add the reference back in in a -01 if it would help. So in short: no the latest version does not address the issues or I would have just been arguing for publishing it as is. However, that is the doc that I would expect the solution to the problems to be done in, but as I'm not currently a co-author (about the time IRI WG was closed, I did volunteer to help edit the document as I do think it's important) and because I want to focus discussion on the problem without presuming a particular solution, I wrote a separate draft for now that I would expect to go away once we decide on an appropriate direction. -Dave From: Tony Hansen [mailto:tony@att.com] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 9:39 AM To: Dave Thaler Cc: apps-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] FW: New Version Notification for draft-thaler-uri-scheme-reg-ps-00.txt On 10/10/2013 12:16 PM, Dave Thaler wrote: Ok, let me try to answer that. RFC 4395 defines a set of goals which are quoted in section 1. The current mechanism does not meet those goals. To really meet the stated goals would require the majority of schemes to be registered. The current process cannot scale to do so, given current practice. Hence we either need to change the process or change the goals or both. Dave, please take a look at draft-ietf-iri-4395bis-irireg. This was an effort to update 4395 for many of the issues you raise as well as updating 4395 for IRIs. Work on it paused when the IRI WG imploded. If you ignore the changes oriented around IRIs, does what is documented there solve the problems that you bring up? (I admit I have not taken your document and done a side-by-side check.) The editors of that draft have discussed resurrecting work on that draft without the IRI working group, but haven't received the kick in the pants needed to do so. Tony Hansen
- [apps-discuss] FW: New Version Notification for d… Dave Thaler
- Re: [apps-discuss] FW: New Version Notification f… Bjoern Hoehrmann
- Re: [apps-discuss] FW: New Version Notification f… Dave Thaler
- Re: [apps-discuss] FW: New Version Notification f… Bjoern Hoehrmann
- Re: [apps-discuss] FW: New Version Notification f… Dave Thaler
- Re: [apps-discuss] FW: New Version Notification f… Tony Hansen
- Re: [apps-discuss] FW: New Version Notification f… t.petch
- Re: [apps-discuss] FW: New Version Notification f… Dave Thaler
- Re: [apps-discuss] FW: New Version Notification f… Dave Thaler
- Re: [apps-discuss] FW: New Version Notification f… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [apps-discuss] FW: New Version Notification f… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [apps-discuss] FW: New Version Notification f… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [apps-discuss] FW: New Version Notification f… Graham Klyne
- Re: [apps-discuss] FW: New Version Notification f… Larry Masinter