Re: [apps-discuss] Review of draft-levine-application-gzip-01.txt
John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> Sat, 14 April 2012 03:35 UTC
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 23:34:55 -0400
From: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>
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Cc: John Levine <standards@taugh.com>, apps-discuss@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] Review of draft-levine-application-gzip-01.txt
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--On Friday, April 13, 2012 17:22 -0700 Ned Freed <ned.freed@mrochek.com> wrote: >> Hi John, >> I am sorry I've missed this document earlier. > >> I am generally happy that you wrote this draft and support its >> publication. Having said that, I think it needs some changes: > >> In Section 1: > >> Some applications have informally used the media type >> application/ x-gzip. The media types defined in this >> document should replace that media type in future >> applications. > >> Also I've seen application/x-gzip-compressed being mentioned >> on the web. > > And application/gzip-compressed, application/gzipped, > application/x-gunzip, and > probably a bunch of others. > >> But I think it would be better to wait for >> draft-ietf-appsawg-media-type-regs-04 to be submitted to IESG >> (it is in the APPSAWG WGLC now). That document would relax >> restrictions on registering x-* media types. I think your >> document should register media types already in use, as >> changing existing implementations to use application/gzip is >> hopeless at this point, unless there is some evidence that >> application/gzip is also in use. In the latter case aliasing >> mechanism proposed in draft-ietf-appsawg-media-type-regs >> should be used. > > I'm ambivalent about this in this case. There are simply too > many names for > this media type in use; no matter which one we pick is cannot > possibly conform > to all existing usage. And, of course, there is the separate issue that caused us to reject various "zip" and related types years ago -- it is basically a content-transfer-encoding (even if it also used locally) and not a content/media type. As with other things, the "horse have left the barn" principle may argue for registering it anyway, but we (and I believe any spec) should be aware that it breaks the model. john
- Re: [apps-discuss] draft-levine-application-gzip-… John Levine
- Re: [apps-discuss] [taugh.com-standards] Review o… John Levine
- [apps-discuss] Review of draft-levine-application… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [apps-discuss] Review of draft-levine-applica… John C Klensin
- Re: [apps-discuss] [taugh.com-standards] Review o… John Levine
- Re: [apps-discuss] Review of draft-levine-applica… Ned Freed
- Re: [apps-discuss] Review of draft-levine-applica… John C Klensin
- Re: [apps-discuss] Review of draft-levine-applica… John Levine
- Re: [apps-discuss] Review of draft-levine-applica… John R. Levine
- Re: [apps-discuss] Review of draft-levine-applica… John C Klensin
- Re: [apps-discuss] Review of draft-levine-applica… Ned Freed