Re: [apps-discuss] Call for Adoption: draft-seantek-text-markdown-media-type

Eric Burger <eburger@standardstrack.com> Mon, 21 July 2014 18:51 UTC

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Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] Call for Adoption: draft-seantek-text-markdown-media-type
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The biggest issue seems to be that there are a whole bunch of *almost* compatible markups.

I would offer one of two directions. One is to punt and do what the draft says - acknowledge incompatible dialects and ignore compatibility. The other is to define an official Markdown markup, presumably based on the Gruber Web site.

Option one does not offer any interoperability. However, if an appendix defines a ‘default’ markup, that may be a way to migrate the industry to a single standard. Option two clearly does promote interoperability.

Option one with no baseline will not result in interoperability and will be a waste of our time.

On Jul 21, 2014, at 1:57 PM, Ned Freed <ned.freed@mrochek.com> wrote:

>> On 7/21/14, 12:25 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
>> > Call For Adoption: draft-seantek-text-markdown-media-type
>> >
>> > Colleagues,
>> >
>> > This note begins a Call For Adoption for the above document to be
>> > adopted as an APPSAWG working group item.  The Call ends on August 8,
>> > 2014.
> 
>> +1
> 
>> I think having the media type is a good thing. I have quibbles with some
>> of the things in the document, but those can be ironed out.
> 
> Agreed. This work seems entirely appropriate to do here.
> 
> 				Ned
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