Re: [apps-discuss] Retroactive application of draft-ietf-appsawg-uri-scheme-reg - comprehensive review
John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> Thu, 16 April 2015 22:35 UTC
Return-Path: <john-ietf@jck.com>
X-Original-To: apps-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: apps-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7A7A1B2FAD; Thu, 16 Apr 2015 15:35:42 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.61
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.61 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id g7iEwvJXfYP3; Thu, 16 Apr 2015 15:35:41 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from bsa2.jck.com (bsa2.jck.com [70.88.254.51]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F2DCE1A1B81; Thu, 16 Apr 2015 15:35:40 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from [198.252.137.35] (helo=JcK-HP8200.jck.com) by bsa2.jck.com with esmtp (Exim 4.82 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from <john-ietf@jck.com>) id 1YisNk-000DA4-C6; Thu, 16 Apr 2015 18:35:36 -0400
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 18:35:30 -0400
From: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>
To: Tony Hansen <tony@att.com>, Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>
Message-ID: <E9D930CF73F16EC450FE7811@JcK-HP8200.jck.com>
In-Reply-To: <55301F9F.5080207@att.com>
References: <2E49FA112B054FFAED69D8A1@JcK-HP8200.jck.com> <CALaySJ+JdE5YrBuXv343_CfNP4mYxOR94JV4q_Uso4VoWfD=Ng@mail.gmail.com> <723FBC93979E1019101319C5@JcK-HP8200.jck.com> <CALaySJL-QbQ7rMRmBHTCjNbjUMKdrHrNSBLZ5zyVQ69VvXMu3A@mail.gmail.com> <AB0D76A4BFEEA77B7878126E@JcK-HP8200.jck.com> <CALaySJ+4STYA1YDeUKVTLj7FXCcTSo1W_kRTf2Vc-VSQnke22w@mail.gmail.com> <55301F9F.5080207@att.com>
X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Win32)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline
X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 198.252.137.35
X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: john-ietf@jck.com
X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on bsa2.jck.com); SAEximRunCond expanded to false
Archived-At: <http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/apps-discuss/m6T29X36crW9aVdxvpVcGy41JzA>
Cc: draft-ietf-appsawg-uri-scheme-reg.all@ietf.org, IESG <iesg@ietf.org>, Apps Discuss <apps-discuss@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] Retroactive application of draft-ietf-appsawg-uri-scheme-reg - comprehensive review
X-BeenThere: apps-discuss@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15
Precedence: list
List-Id: General discussion of application-layer protocols <apps-discuss.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/apps-discuss>, <mailto:apps-discuss-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/apps-discuss/>
List-Post: <mailto:apps-discuss@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:apps-discuss-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/apps-discuss>, <mailto:apps-discuss-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 22:35:42 -0000
--On Thursday, April 16, 2015 16:46 -0400 Tony Hansen <tony@att.com> wrote: > Just now, I've re-reviewed all references to 3986 within > draft-ietf-appsawg-uri-scheme-reg-06 and don't see anywhere > that it should be construed as >updating< 3986. There are lots > of places where people are directed to looking at 3986 and > 3987, and a thorough understanding of those is needed to fully > appreciate some of the things being said in here. But if > there's ANY doubt about us NOT updating them, is there a need > to explicitly state that, say in the introduction? In the spirit of moving on, I'd prefer to avoid requiring another rev and will happily settle for the assurance that everyone involved will provide support for my pushing back if anyone stands up and says "you can't do <X> in URNs because draft-ietf-appsawg-urn-scheme-reg clarified 3986 to prohibit it". john
- Re: [apps-discuss] Retroactive application of dra… Barry Leiba
- [apps-discuss] Retroactive application of draft-i… John C Klensin
- Re: [apps-discuss] Retroactive application of dra… Graham Klyne
- Re: [apps-discuss] Retroactive application of dra… Barry Leiba
- Re: [apps-discuss] Retroactive application of dra… John C Klensin
- Re: [apps-discuss] Retroactive application of dra… Graham Klyne
- Re: [apps-discuss] Retroactive application of dra… Graham Klyne
- Re: [apps-discuss] Retroactive application of dra… Graham Klyne
- Re: [apps-discuss] Retroactive application of dra… Dave Thaler
- Re: [apps-discuss] Retroactive application of dra… John C Klensin
- Re: [apps-discuss] Retroactive application of dra… Roy T. Fielding
- Re: [apps-discuss] Retroactive application of dra… Peter Saint-Andre - &yet
- Re: [apps-discuss] Retroactive application of dra… Roy T. Fielding
- Re: [apps-discuss] Retroactive application of dra… Graham Klyne
- Re: [apps-discuss] Retroactive application of dra… Barry Leiba
- Re: [apps-discuss] Retroactive application of dra… Matthew Kerwin
- Re: [apps-discuss] Retroactive application of dra… Roy T. Fielding
- Re: [apps-discuss] Retroactive application of dra… John C Klensin
- Re: [apps-discuss] Retroactive application of dra… Roy T. Fielding
- Re: [apps-discuss] Retroactive application of dra… Sean Leonard
- Re: [apps-discuss] Retroactive application of dra… Roy T. Fielding
- Re: [apps-discuss] Retroactive application of dra… Barry Leiba
- Re: [apps-discuss] Retroactive application of dra… John C Klensin
- Re: [apps-discuss] Retroactive application of dra… Barry Leiba
- Re: [apps-discuss] Retroactive application of dra… Dave Thaler
- Re: [apps-discuss] Retroactive application of dra… Tony Hansen
- Re: [apps-discuss] Retroactive application of dra… John C Klensin
- Re: [apps-discuss] Retroactive application of dra… Barry Leiba
- Re: [apps-discuss] Retroactive application of dra… Graham Klyne
- Re: [apps-discuss] Retroactive application of dra… John C Klensin
- Re: [apps-discuss] Retroactive application of dra… Keith Moore
- Re: [apps-discuss] Retroactive application of dra… Larry Masinter
- Re: [apps-discuss] Retroactive application of dra… Barry Leiba