Re: [apps-discuss] Multipart/report, draft-kucherawy-rfc3462bis-01.txt

Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> Thu, 28 July 2011 22:01 UTC

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>> I know you know this; I don't know why you think it's a small deal.
>
> Perhaps because it *should* be a small deal. And to the extent it isn't, I'm
> not sure I see the value in trying to accomodate brokenness.

At least part of Dave's point, setting aside issues related to
complaints and over-tweaking and DISCUSS ballots, is that there's a
*real* cost to getting any document through that involves:

-- Someone taking on the task of editing the document and making the
case for it.
-- A document shepherd and reviewers to make sure it's ready to go.
-- An AD's time to manage the process.
-- An IETF-wide last call.
-- Usually, several directorate reviews; at least GenART and SecDir
for everything.
-- IESG review, which requires ballots (and, therefore, presumably,
review) from at least ten ADs.
-- Time on a telechat, even if it's only a minute or two.
-- Review by IANA, and communication with the authors.
-- RFC Editor processing, which is never insignificant.

I might have missed something, but I think I got most of it.  Even the
most lightweight version of all that is more expensive than most of us
think about.

Barry