Re: [apps-discuss] text/nfo draft-01 to -02 feedback, was Re: Volunteer needed for media type ISE review

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin J. Dürst" <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp>
To: "Sean Leonard" <dev+ietf@seantek.com>; "t.petch"
<ietfc@btconnect.com>; <apps-discuss@ietf.org>
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Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 10:10 AM
>
> On 2015/10/05 09:52, Sean Leonard wrote:
> > Hello Tom et. al.:
>
> >> s.3.7  this template corresponds to RFC2978 but I note that IANA
has a
> >> few extra fields.    Doubtless the Expert Reviewer will ask for
them if
> >> needed.
> >
> > I looked through the IANA registries (note that there are two: the
> > "charsets" registry and the "character sets" registry),
>
> Can you say what you are referring to here? As far as I know, there is
> only one such registry. And as an expert reviewer for that registry, I
> guess I should know :-(.


charsets is for those not defined in RFC and so not applicable here

My other comment related to the MIBenum - I see now that these are
assigned by IANA.

Tom Petch

>
>
> >> 3.5 Better to be explicit that it is the 'Media Types' registry
that is
> >> the intended destination.
> >
> > I did not modify the IANA Considerations text, not so much because I
> > disagree, but because I have at least two other Internet-Drafts:
> > draft-seantek-windows-image
> > draft-ietf-appsawg-text-markdown
> >
> > in which the same boilerplate directives are stated, without saying
> > "...in the Standards tree of the Media Types registry [CITE NEEDED?]
> > using the application provided...". If I change this draft, it is
only
> > fair that I change the other drafts. Note that the text-markdown
draft
> > is allllmoooosssttt ttthhheerrreee to AUTH48.
> >
> > So this is a general referendum on the topic. In a published
document is
> > it necessary to state:
> > 1. "of the Media Types registry"
> > 2. "[CITE]" to the Media Types registry
> > 3. "in the [Standards] tree" (let's face it, it's almost always
going to
> > be in the Standards tree, otherwise why bother; it's also implicit
in
> > the registration template)
> >
> > in the IANA Considerations?
>
> In the published document, the "please register" phrase will be
replaced
> by something saying that IANA registered it, or so I think.
>
> > My view is that this statement is sufficient:
> > IANA is asked to register the media type X/Y using the application
> > provided in Section Z of this document.
>
> If it turns out to not be sufficient, IANA will tell you when they
> review the document. If a document is close to AUTH48, then it most
> probably already has passed that review.
>
> Regards,   Martin.