Re: [aqm] Spencer Dawkins' Yes on draft-ietf-aqm-eval-guidelines-11: (with COMMENT)
Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> Fri, 10 June 2016 13:21 UTC
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From: Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 08:21:01 -0500
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Subject: Re: [aqm] Spencer Dawkins' Yes on draft-ietf-aqm-eval-guidelines-11: (with COMMENT)
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On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 6:38 AM, Kuhn Nicolas <Nicolas.Kuhn@cnes.fr> wrote: > Dear Spencer Dawkins, > > Thank you for your review and sorry for the delay of our answer. We will > consider your comments as you can see inline. > We will push an updated version including the changes as soon as possible. > Please find attached to this email the diff between v11 and expected v12. > > Kind regards, > > The authors > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : Spencer Dawkins [mailto:spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com] > Envoyé : mercredi 18 mai 2016 23:12 > À : The IESG > Cc : draft-ietf-aqm-eval-guidelines@ietf.org; wes@mti-systems.com; > aqm-chairs@ietf.org; wes@mti-systems.com; aqm@ietf.org > Objet : Spencer Dawkins' Yes on draft-ietf-aqm-eval-guidelines-11: (with > COMMENT) > > Spencer Dawkins has entered the following ballot position for > draft-ietf-aqm-eval-guidelines-11: Yes > > When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all > email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this > introductory paragraph, however.) > > > Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html > for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. > > > The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-aqm-eval-guidelines/ > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > COMMENT: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > I'm pretty sure I know what "steady state" means in this text > > The transmission of the non application-limited flow must start > before the transmission of the application-limited flow and only > after the steady state has been reached by non application-limited > flow. > > but I'm not sure how someone using this specification knows what it means, > and it's asking the user to do something specific during evaluation. Is > there a reference or definition you could provide? > > [NK] By "steady-state" we generally mean that the non application-limited > flow is out of slow start. We propose to add : "The steady state can be > assumed when the goodput is stable." > > (There are other uses of the phrase "steady state" in the document, and > they would also benefit, but this is the use that needs the precision) > That works for me, and thanks for considering my comment. Spencer
- [aqm] Spencer Dawkins' Yes on draft-ietf-aqm-eval… Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [aqm] Spencer Dawkins' Yes on draft-ietf-aqm-… Kuhn Nicolas
- Re: [aqm] Spencer Dawkins' Yes on draft-ietf-aqm-… Spencer Dawkins at IETF