[arch-d] Side meeting on protocol development, the IETF and Internet consolidation at IETF 114

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Public Side Meeting: Consolidation
Protocol development, the IETF and Internet consolidation
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Thursday, 28 July 1600-1730 local time

Several recent Internet drafts have discussed aspects of consolidation 
and how protocol design and consolidation interact. While some of the 
drafts have had extensive revisions based on discussions on mailing 
lists, consolidation is not a part of any charter for a Working Group 
and seldom gets discussed in larger, plenary sessions.  The purpose of 
this session is to have a brief discussion of some of the important 
contributions and then a discussion of whether this should be a topic 
that gets more formal treatment within some part of the IETF, IAB or 
IRTF. One of the drafts describes consolidation as "the process of 
increasing control over internet infrastructure and services by a small 
set of organizations."

Draft agenda for the meeting:
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1. Introduction, purpose and ground rules for the meeting
2. Characteristics of existing I-Ds that discuss consolidastion
3. Discussion of whether or not consolidation is an appropriate topic 
within the IETF
4. Assessment and agreement of next steps (e.g. meeting in London at 
115)
5. AOB

The meeting will be chaired by Jim Reid.
Questions or suggestions can be sent to mark <at> 
internetpolicyadvisors.com