Re: [art] Predictable Internet Time
Philip Homburg <pch-ietf-art@u-1.phicoh.com> Wed, 29 March 2017 15:13 UTC
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Subject: Re: [art] Predictable Internet Time
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>Right - I will update the doc accordingly. AFAICT, POSIX time implies >(but never states) that it uses a local reference clock to emulate TAI. Not TAI, UTC. Every time_t value has a specific interpretation as a UTC timestamp. Obviously, without correction a free running clock will go wrong with leap seconds. But that doesn't change that it is some approximation of UTC and not TAI. By and large, current Unix systems have no idea about TAI. There are no (commonly available) APIs that give you TAI.
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