Re: [Asrg] Re: Stamping

Steve Schear <schear@attbi.com> Sat, 22 March 2003 00:25 UTC

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To: wayne <wayne@midwestcs.com>, asrg@ietf.org
From: Steve Schear <schear@attbi.com>
Subject: Re: [Asrg] Re: Stamping
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 16:26:07 -0800

At 03:27 PM 3/21/2003 -0600, wayne wrote:
>In <oydllz8muel.fsf@bert.cs.rice.edu> Scott A Crosby <scrosby@cs.rice.edu> 
>writes:
>
> > On Fri, 21 Mar 2003 12:07:43 -0500, Kee Hinckley <nazgul@somewhere.com> 
> writes:
> >
> > > ISPs did (and all ISPs wore white hats), then we wouldn't be sitting
> > > here.  From the white-hat ISP perspective, outbound spam is a bug in
> > > their security.  e-stamps won't fix that.
> >
> > Outbound spam is not a bug in security. Outbound spam is like any
> > other outbound communication. Bits are sent to the internet sourced
> > from their customers. Though it may be annoying to you, is my ability
> > to give you a prank phone call a bug in the telephone system?
>
>Prank phone calls are illegal.  Your ablility to make a single prank
>call is not a bug in the telephone system.  If you had the ablility to
>make even a dozen prank phone calls per week without being caught,
>then I would say there is a bug in the telephone systems.

But anyone can.  Just go to random pay phones and make the calls.  Of 
course, the costs associated with this mean that those calls have got to be 
somewhat important to you.  Stamps to the same.  If its free it gets 
abused.  If it costs value judgements come into the picture.

steve

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