[Asrg] Tragedy of the Commons
mike.pearson@ssc.govt.nz Wed, 19 March 2003 21:35 UTC
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Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 09:13:47 +1200
Thanks to those contributors who mentioned this issue. I found the following 1-page summary useful in understanding the background of the concept: http://members.aol.com/trajcom/private/commons.htm An important concept though, is that the scarce resource is not [bandwidth], but [our attention] i.e. technology can give extra Mbs, but not extra minutes. This concept is discussed in depth by Harry Rheingold in his 1994 article: http://www.well.com/user/hlr/tomorrow/tomorrowcommons.html "Attention is the currency of cyberspace. If spammers learn that the Net will turn off its attention in an organized manner, maybe they'll go away before they damage the cybernetic commons. If too many opportunists ignore the social agreements that make the net useful as an online thinktank, the marvelous knowledge-sharing culture that had scaled up so well from the one thousand person ARPAnet in 1970 to the twenty million person Internet of 1994 will be extinct by the time hundreds of millions come online by 1999." It seems to suggest that the only power we have, is to collectively ignore the people who abuse our time, or those service providers who allow abusers to flourish. Regards, Mike Pearson Personal: The views expressed are not necessarily those of my employer. ph +64 (4) 495-6769 mobile +64 (21) 631-731 fax +64 (4) 495-6669 mailto:mike.pearson@ssc.govt.nz _______________________________________________ Asrg mailing list Asrg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/asrg
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