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Re: [Asrg] Proposal: NO_XMIT DNS record

Walter Dnes <waltdnes@waltdnes.org> Tue, 15 July 2003 04:02 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Asrg] Proposal: NO_XMIT DNS record
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Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 00:01:24 -0400

On Sun, Jul 13, 2003 at 07:48:42AM -0400, Daniel Feenberg wrote

> (3) You mentioned the MAPS DUL. Do systems voluntarily send their
> IP address ranges to MAPS, or does MAPS generally figure it out
> for themselves? If the latter, do we have any idea why they don't
> cooperate?  Does that indicate they won't cooperate with NO_XMIT? Will
> the existence of a formal standard affect many of them?

  Quite a few systems give out their dynamic IP ranges voluntarily to
DUL etal.  It doesn't have the hardware purchase+management headaches
of port-25 blocking.

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