Re: [Asrg] Proposal: NO_XMIT DNS record
"Alan DeKok" <aland@freeradius.org> Sun, 13 July 2003 20:51 UTC
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From: Alan DeKok <aland@freeradius.org>
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Subject: Re: [Asrg] Proposal: NO_XMIT DNS record
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Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 16:48:05 -0400
Scott Nelson <scott@spamwolf.com> wrote: > If widely adopted, this would effectively stop spam from > open proxies and cracked machines. It might even stop spam > from hijacked IP addresses, depending on how the rDNS is designated. It wouldn't stop the spam, it would give a filter which had very low false positives & negatives. Spammers could still DDoS people by sending TCP SYN's. > There is a conflict between the user of an IP address, > and the owner of the rDNS record. Many ISPs do not currently > allow the end user to set the rDNS record for the IP they use. > Many others only allow it with the payment of very high fees. The IESG should make a statement about businesses selling "internet connections". Real "internet connections" are fully capable, for traffic & identity. Anything else is second class, and is not a full internet connection. The rDNS problem is a political issue, not a technical matter. Alan DeKok. _______________________________________________ Asrg mailing list Asrg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/asrg
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