RE: [Asrg] 6. Proposals - CRI Draft - 4.1 Loop Avoidance

"Peter Kay" <peter@titankey.com> Thu, 02 October 2003 16:32 UTC

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Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 06:33:57 -1000
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Eric,

> 
> If we start adding various messaging such as with DSNs...I 
> don't think that we should be hijacking a sender's email 
> address to carry various protocol information.
> 

I'm not sure what you mean by that. If CRI is a protocol between two
people, instead of two systems, I don't see what's wrong w/ using the
user's email addresses.  

> Of course, that's just my opinion and why it's merely a 
> recommendation rather than a must, shall...
> 

If its just a recommendation, then why not recommend something which
simplifies the situation and reduces overhead?



> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: asrg-admin@ietf.org [mailto:asrg-admin@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
> Peter
> > Kay
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 12:08 PM
> > To: asrg@ietf.org
> > Subject: [Asrg] 6. Proposals - CRI Draft - 4.1 Loop Avoidance
> > 
> > I finally had a chance to come up for air to respond to 
> Eric/Yakov's 
> > draft at 
> > 
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-irtf-asrg-cri-00.txt
  . ASRG 
> owes you much for your hard work in creating this document and I 
> personally thank you for furthering an important area of 
> interoperability.
> 
> On loop avoidance section, specifically:
> 
> "For CRI systems that issue challenge messages, it is also recommended

> that each CRI system use a local systemwide user, such as cri@foo.com,

> for issuing challenges rather than preserving the original sender's 
> email address as the sender of the challenge message."
> 
> We disgree.
> 
> Most CR systems automatically/dynamically add the recipient to the 
> sender's whitelist.  So if I send an email to eric@cri.com, he's 
> automatically added to my whitelist.  If the mail-from on his
challenge
> is eric@cri.com, his email comes straight to my inbox without delays
or
> filters and certainly won't get challenged.  If the mail-from on his 
> challenge is "challenger@cri.com", the CRI protocol needs to be
invoked,
> possibly creating unecessary overhead.
> 
> Keeping the mail-from consistent allows CRI systems to naturally 
> interoperate and assuming that the CR system adds recipients to the 
> whitelist, elegantly solves the problem of CR systems challenging
other
> challenges.
> 
> Peter
> 
> 
> 
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