Re: [auth48] [Cluster456] AUTH48 Questions: RFCs 9280 - 9283 (draft-iab-rfcefdp-rfced-model, draft-rsalz-2028bis, draft-rosen-rfcefdp-update-2026, draft-carpenter-rfced-iab-charter)

Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> Sat, 18 June 2022 18:08 UTC

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On 6/17/22 11:26 PM, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org wrote:

<snip/>

> 2) We see the following forms in this cluster:
> 
> RFC Editor Function - draft-iab-rfcefdp-rfced-model-13
> RFC Editor function - draft-carpenter-rfced-iab-charter-09
> 
> Is one form preferred? Note that RFCs 8728, 8729, and 8730 use "RFC Editor
> function" (lowercase "function").

Let's use lowercase "function" as in the older RFCs.

> 3) We see the following expansions for LLC in the cluster in the context
> of "IETF LLC":
> 
> Limited Liability Company - draft-iab-rfcefdp-rfced-model-13
> Limited Liability Corporation - draft-rsalz-2028bis-07
> 
> We have updated to "Limited Liability Company" as that is what we see in past
> RFCs (e.g., 8728, 8729, and 8730) and in documents such as
> https://www.ietf.org/media/documents/IETF-LLC-Agreement.pdf.

Agreed.

> 4) Should instances of "the Trust" read "the IETF Trust"? Or will this existing text be clear for readers?
> 
> Original (draft-rsalz-2028bis-07):
>     The principles for the copyright licenses granted to and from the
>     Trust are described in [IPRRIGHTS1] and [COPYRIGHT], and the licenses
>     themselves are in the Trust Legal Provisions
>     (https://trustee.ietf.org/documents/trust-legal-provisions/).
>     ...
>     The Trust also currently owns IANA's domain names and trademarks
>     through an agreement with the IANA clients.
>     ...
>     The Trustees that govern the Trust are selected from the IETF
>     community, as described in [TRUSTEES] and the rationale given in
>     [TRUSTRAT].

All of that text is from Section 3.1, which is entitled "The IETF 
Trust"; thus I think context makes the meaning clear. However, in the 
second and third paragraphs it might be slightly better to change "the 
Trust" to "the IETF Trust" (on the principle of using the full name on 
first use in a paragraph).

> Original (draft-iab-rfcefdp-rfced-model-13):
>     *  The IETF Trust, which approves that the boilerplate correctly
>        states the Trust's position regarding rights and ownership

That seems fine because the context of the sentence makes the meaning clear.

>     ...
>     It is left to the Trust to
>     specify exactly how this shall be clearly indicated in each document.

This is from Section 6.1, which is entitled "Procedures Request of the 
IETF Trust"; thus I think contenxt again makes the meaning clear, but as 
above changing this one instance to "IETF Trust" would be fine with me.

Peter