Re: [auth48] [Cluster456] AUTH48 Questions: RFCs 9280 - 9283 (draft-iab-rfcefdp-rfced-model, draft-rsalz-2028bis, draft-rosen-rfcefdp-update-2026, draft-carpenter-rfced-iab-charter)

"Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com> Tue, 21 June 2022 16:57 UTC

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: "rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org" <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>, "stpeter@stpeter.im" <stpeter@stpeter.im>, "br@brianrosen.net" <br@brianrosen.net>, "brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com" <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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Thread-Topic: [Cluster456] AUTH48 Questions: RFCs 9280 - 9283 (draft-iab-rfcefdp-rfced-model, draft-rsalz-2028bis, draft-rosen-rfcefdp-update-2026, draft-carpenter-rfced-iab-charter)
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Subject: Re: [auth48] [Cluster456] AUTH48 Questions: RFCs 9280 - 9283 (draft-iab-rfcefdp-rfced-model, draft-rsalz-2028bis, draft-rosen-rfcefdp-update-2026, draft-carpenter-rfced-iab-charter)
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As the author of RFC 9281 (nee 2028bis), I am fine with all of your suggested changes and concur with Peter and Brian.

I believe the only question is "the Trust" vs "the IETF Trust" in 9281. Since the Subject heading says "The IETF Trust" and the first paragraph also uses those terms, I think it's clear. If you think it should be made explicit, feel free.