[auth48] [IANA #1238287] [IANA] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9268 <draft-ietf-6man-mtu-option-15> for your review - Author feedback
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Hi, > Please update the “Destination Options and Hop-by-Hop Options” > registry <https://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv6-parameters/ipv6- > parameters.xhtml#ipv6-parameters-2> > as follows. > > Old: > Description > Path MTU Record Option > > New: > Description > Minimum Path MTU Hop-by-Hop Option This change is complete: https://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv6-parameters (Recipient list adjusted slightly to include individual chair/AD addresses, as mail from our ticketing system sometimes bounces when we try to use the -chairs/-ads/-all aliases.) thanks, Amanda Baber IANA Operations Manager > Diff file is here: > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9268-diff.html > > Best regards, > RFC Editor/ap > > > On Aug 18, 2022, at 9:05 AM, Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Erik, > > > > Thank you for your reply. We have noted you approval on the AUTH48 > > status page: > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9268 > > > > We will now ask IANA to update their registry accordingly. After the > > IANA updates are complete, we will move forward with the publication > > process. > > > > Best regards, > > RFC Editor/ap > > > >> On Aug 17, 2022, at 7:33 PM, Erik Kline <ek.ietf@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> All, > >> > >> I have reviewed rfc9268-auth48diff.html and all the changes look > >> good to me, including the presence of the Implementation section. > >> (I appreciate the "At the time this document..." to aid the quick- > >> but-not-necessarily-careful reader. :-) > >> > >> LGTM > >> > >> Thank you all! > >> > >> On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 9:35 AM Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> Erik, > >> > >> I wanted to add that it is the authors recommendation to keep the > >> implementation section. The pointer to the VPP source might be > >> useful to another implementor. > >> > >> Bob > >> > >>> On Aug 16, 2022, at 9:30 AM, Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi Erik, > >>> > >>> This is a friendly reminder that we await your review and > >>> confirmation that the Implementation Status section should remain > >>> in this document. > >>> > >>> The latest files are posted here (please refresh): > >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9268.xml > >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9268.txt > >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9268.html > >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9268.pdf > >>> > >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9268-diff.html (comprehensive > >>> diff) > >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9268-rfcdiff.html > >>> (comprehensive diff with changes side by side) > >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9268-lastdiff.html (last > >>> version to this one) > >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9268-lastrfcdiff.html (last > >>> version to this one with changes side by side) > >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9268-auth48diff.html (AUTH48 > >>> changes) > >>> > >>> The AUTH48 status page is here: > >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9268 > >>> > >>> Thank you, > >>> RFC Editor/ap > >>> > >>>> On Aug 9, 2022, at 8:16 AM, Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hi Gorry, > >>>> > >>>> We have noted your approval on the AUTH48 status page: > >>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9268 > >>>> > >>>> Best regards, > >>>> RFC Editor/ap > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> On Aug 9, 2022, at 12:32 AM, Gorry Fairhurst > >>>>> <gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> On 08/08/2022 20:29, Alanna Paloma wrote: > >>>>>> Hi Bob and Gorry, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thank you for your replies. We have noted Bob’s approval on the > >>>>>> AUTH48 status page and updated the files per Gorry’s request. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Once we have received approvals from Erik and Gorry, we will ask > >>>>>> IANA to update their registry accordingly. After the IANA > >>>>>> updates are complete, we will move forward with the publication > >>>>>> process. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The latest files are posted here (please refresh): > >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9268.xml > >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9268.txt > >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9268.html > >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9268.pdf > >>>>>> > >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9268-diff.html > >>>>>> (comprehensive diff) > >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9268-rfcdiff.html > >>>>>> (comprehensive diff with changes side by side) > >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9268-lastdiff.html (last > >>>>>> version to this one) > >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9268-lastrfcdiff.html > >>>>>> (last version to this one with changes side by side) > >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9268-auth48diff.html > >>>>>> (AUTH48 changes) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The AUTH48 status page is here: > >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9268 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thank you, > >>>>>> RFC Editor/ap > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks for making these changes. I'll add my approval also for > >>>>> publication. > >>>>> > >>>>> Gorry > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>> On Aug 8, 2022, at 4:31 AM, Gorry Fairhurst > >>>>>>> <gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 05/08/2022 23:53, Bob Hinden wrote: > >>>>>>>> Alanna, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Thanks very much, the new version looks fine to me. I > >>>>>>>> approve. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Bob > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks for all your work, this is nearlky ready. I have done a > >>>>>>> detailed review of the final formatted version and have a few > >>>>>>> minor additional requests: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> (a) Format: Section 2 para 2 appears to be a continuation of > >>>>>>> the first para. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Please concatenate para 1 with para 2: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> OLD: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> or do not have a return > >>>>>>> path to the source host. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> This results in many transport-layer connections being > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> NEW: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> or do not have a return path to the source host.This results in > >>>>>>> many transport-layer connections being > >>>>>>> ==== > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> (b) Figure 2 explanatory text, appears to have lost the indent > >>>>>>> for the explanation of Length. Please ident lines to be > >>>>>>> consistent with other definitions in this block. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> OLD: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Length: 4 The size of the value field in Option Data > >>>>>>> field supports PMTU values from 0 to 65,534 octets, the > >>>>>>> maximum size represented by the Path MTU Option. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> NEW: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Length: 4 The size of the value field in Option Data > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> field supports PMTU values from 0 to 65,534 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> octets, the maximum size represented by the > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Path MTU Option. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ---- > >>>>>>> (c) Section 6.3.1. > >>>>>>> We previously requested you to move the definition > >>>>>>> of DPLPMTUD earlier in the document, which I can see you did. > >>>>>>> This means there is now no need for a re-definition here: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> OLD: > >>>>>>> A datagram transport can utilize Datagram Packetization Layer > >>>>>>> PMTU > >>>>>>> Discovery (DPLPMTUD) [RFC8899]. > >>>>>>> NEW: > >>>>>>> A datagram transport can utilize DPLPMTUD [RFC8899]. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> --- > >>>>>>> (d) In Figure 3: > >>>>>>> Please remove last dash and replace by an arrow, > >>>>>>> in line prior to "..." to > >>>>>>> be consistent with other packets sent from left top right: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> OLD: > >>>>>>> ----Packets of data size d ------------------------------- > >>>>>>> NEW: > >>>>>>> ----Packets of data size d ------------------------------> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> --- > >>>>>>> (e) It would be helpful to add a comma before "d" in this case: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> OLD: > >>>>>>> confirmed probe size d. > >>>>>>> NEW: > >>>>>>> confirmed probe size, d. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Best wishes, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Gorry > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Aug 5, 2022, at 3:11 PM, Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Hi *Erik, Bob, and Gorry, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thank you for your replies. We have updated the files as > >>>>>>>>> requested. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Note that we have reverted the text to <artwork> as > >>>>>>>>> requested. FYI, we used <dl> because it seemed appropriate > >>>>>>>>> use of the XML. If RFC 8200 were being published today, we > >>>>>>>>> would have used <dl> for that list. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> *Erik - As the AD, please review and confirm that the > >>>>>>>>> Implementation Status section should remain in this document. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9268-auth48diff.html > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> The files have been posted here (please refresh): > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9268.xml > >>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9268.txt > >>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9268.html > >>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9268.pdf > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> The relevant diff files have been posted here: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9268-diff.html > >>>>>>>>> (comprehensive diff) > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9268-rfcdiff.html > >>>>>>>>> (comprehensive diff with changes side by side) > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9268-lastdiff.html > >>>>>>>>> (last version to this one) > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9268-lastrfcdiff.html > >>>>>>>>> (last version to this one with changes side by side) > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9268-auth48diff.html > >>>>>>>>> (AUTH48 changes) > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Please review the document carefully as documents do not > >>>>>>>>> change once published as RFCs. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> We will await any further changes you may have and approvals > >>>>>>>>> from each author and *Erik prior to moving forward in the > >>>>>>>>> publication process. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Please see the AUTH48 status page for this document here: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9268 > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thank you, > >>>>>>>>> RFC Editor/ap > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Aug 4, 2022, at 2:02 AM, Gorry Fairhurst > >>>>>>>>>> <gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for this review. Please see below the detailed > >>>>>>>>>> feedback following your review, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> -------- Forwarded Message -------- > >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9268 <draft-ietf-6man-mtu- > >>>>>>>>>>> option-15> for your review > >>>>>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2022 08:03:11 -0700 (PDT) > >>>>>>>>>>> From: > >>>>>>>>>>> rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> To: > >>>>>>>>>>> bob.hinden@gmail.com, gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> CC: > >>>>>>>>>>> rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org, 6man-ads@ietf.org, 6man- > >>>>>>>>>>> chairs@ietf.org, otroan@employees.org, ek.ietf@gmail.com, > >>>>>>>>>>> auth48archive@rfc-editor.org > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Authors, > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve > >>>>>>>>>>> (as necessary) the following questions, which are also in > >>>>>>>>>>> the XML file. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 1) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those > >>>>>>>>>>> that appear in the title) for use on > >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/search > >>>>>>>>>>> . --> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Auth: These are our suggestions: > >>>>>>>>>> DPLPMTUD > >>>>>>>>>> PMTUD > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 2) <!--[rfced] Figure titles: Would you like to provide > >>>>>>>>>>> captions for the figures in this document? > >>>>>>>>>>> --> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Auth: Yes, please do add captions, as below: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> NEW: > >>>>>>>>>> Figure 1: An example path between the source host and the > >>>>>>>>>> destination host. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Figure 2: Three scenarios that arise from using the path > >>>>>>>>>> shown in Figure 1. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Figure 3: Format of the Minimum Path MTU Hop-by-Hop Option. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 3) <!--[rfced] We see a number of author-inserted comments > >>>>>>>>>>> in the .xml file > >>>>>>>>>>> for this document. We are unsure if these have been > >>>>>>>>>>> resolved. Please > >>>>>>>>>>> review and let us know if these can be deleted or if they > >>>>>>>>>>> need to be > >>>>>>>>>>> addressed. > >>>>>>>>>>> --> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Please remove prior to publication. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Auth: OK > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 4) <!-- [rfced] Section 5: Please review the formatting of > >>>>>>>>>>> the descriptions of the Minimum Path MTU Hop-by-Hop Option, > >>>>>>>>>>> and let us know if any changes are needed. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Original: > >>>>>>>>>>> Option Type (see Section 4.2 of [RFC8200]): > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> BB 00 Skip over this option and continue processing. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> C 1 Option data can change en route to the packet's final > >>>>>>>>>>> destination. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> TTTTT 10000 Option Type assigned from IANA [IANA-HBH]. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Length: 4 The size of the value field in Option Data > >>>>>>>>>>> field supports PMTU values from 0 to 65,534 octets, the > >>>>>>>>>>> maximum size represented by the Path MTU option. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Min-PMTU: n 16-bits. The minimum MTU recorded along the > >>>>>>>>>>> path > >>>>>>>>>>> in octets, reflecting the smallest link MTU that > >>>>>>>>>>> the packet experienced along the path. > >>>>>>>>>>> A value less than the IPv6 minimum link > >>>>>>>>>>> MTU [RFC8200] MUST be ignored. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Rtn-PMTU: n 15-bits. The returned Path MTU field, carrying > >>>>>>>>>>> the 15 > >>>>>>>>>>> most significant bits of the latest received Min-PMTU > >>>>>>>>>>> field for the forward path. The value zero means that > >>>>>>>>>>> no Reported MTU is being returned. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> R n 1-bit. R-Flag. Set by the source to signal that > >>>>>>>>>>> the destination host should include the received > >>>>>>>>>>> Rtn-PMTU field updated by the reported Min-PMTU value > >>>>>>>>>>> when the destination host is to send a PMTU Option back > >>>>>>>>>>> to the source host. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Current: > >>>>>>>>>>> BB 00 > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Skip over this option and continue processing. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> C 1 > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Option data can change en route to the packet's final > >>>>>>>>>>> destination. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> TTTTT 10000 > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Option Type assigned from IANA [IANA-HBH]. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Length: 4 > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> The size of the value field in the Option Data field > >>>>>>>>>>> supports PMTU values from 0 to 65,534 octets, which is the > >>>>>>>>>>> maximum size represented by the Path MTU option. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Min-PMTU: n > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 16-bits. The minimum MTU recorded along the path in > >>>>>>>>>>> octets, reflecting the smallest link MTU that the packet > >>>>>>>>>>> experienced along the path. A value less than the IPv6 > >>>>>>>>>>> minimum link MTU [RFC8200] MUST be ignored. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Rtn-PMTU: n > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 15-bits. The returned Path MTU field, carrying the 15 > >>>>>>>>>>> most significant bits of the latest received Min-PMTU > >>>>>>>>>>> field for the forward path. The value zero means that no > >>>>>>>>>>> Reported MTU is being returned. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> R n > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 1-bit. R-Flag. Set by the source to signal that the > >>>>>>>>>>> destination host should include the received Rtn-PMTU > >>>>>>>>>>> field updated by the reported Min-PMTU value when the > >>>>>>>>>>> destination host is to send a PMTU Option back to the > >>>>>>>>>>> source host. > >>>>>>>>>>> --> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Auth: Bob raised an issuem about this proposal. > >>>>>>>>>>> 5) <!--[rfced] Section 6.3: We note that the following text > >>>>>>>>>>> states that probe packets are used for "two distinct > >>>>>>>>>>> functions"; however, it is then followed by a list of four > >>>>>>>>>>> items. May we update this list to maintain the first two > >>>>>>>>>>> items and move the last two items into separate paragraphs? > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Original: > >>>>>>>>>>> PLPMTUD [RFC9000] uses probe packets for two distinct > >>>>>>>>>>> functions: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> * Probe packets are used to confirm connectivity... > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> * A second use of probe packets is to explore if a path > >>>>>>>>>>> supports a > >>>>>>>>>>> packet size greater than the current PLPMTU... > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> * The PMTU Hop-by-Hop Option Probe can be sent on packets > >>>>>>>>>>> that > >>>>>>>>>>> include application data... > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> * Using a PMTU Probe on packets that do not carry > >>>>>>>>>>> application data > >>>>>>>>>>> will avoid the need for loss recovery... > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps: > >>>>>>>>>>> PLPMTUD [RFC9000] uses probe packets for two distinct > >>>>>>>>>>> functions: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> * Probe packets are used to confirm connectivity... > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> * A second use of probe packets is to explore if a path > >>>>>>>>>>> supports a > >>>>>>>>>>> packet size greater than the current PLPMTU... > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> The PMTU Hop-by-Hop Option probe can be sent on packets > >>>>>>>>>>> that > >>>>>>>>>>> include application data... > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Using a PMTU probe on packets that do not carry application > >>>>>>>>>>> data > >>>>>>>>>>> will avoid the need for loss recovery... > >>>>>>>>>>> --> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Auth: > >>>>>>>>>> This REF seems slightly wonky. > >>>>>>>>>> The RFC to be cited is RFC 8899. > >>>>>>>>>> The change itself looks OK. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 6) <!-- [rfced] Section 6.3.5: We have updated "R-bit" to > >>>>>>>>>>> "R-Flag" in the following. Please let us know if any > >>>>>>>>>>> changes are necessary. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Original: > >>>>>>>>>>> To bound the delay in discovering an increase in > >>>>>>>>>>> the actual PMTU, a host with a link MTU larger than the > >>>>>>>>>>> current PMTU > >>>>>>>>>>> SHOULD periodically send the MinPMTU HBH Option with the R- > >>>>>>>>>>> bit set. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Current: > >>>>>>>>>>> To bound the delay in discovering an increase in > >>>>>>>>>>> the actual PMTU, a host with a link MTU larger than the > >>>>>>>>>>> current PMTU > >>>>>>>>>>> SHOULD periodically send the MinPMTU HBH Option with the R- > >>>>>>>>>>> Flag set. > >>>>>>>>>>> --> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Auth: Yes, we agree. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 7) <!-- [rfced] Section 7: IANA has recorded the following > >>>>>>>>>>> description in the "Destination Options and Hop-by-Hop > >>>>>>>>>>> Options" registry <https://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv6- > >>>>>>>>>>> parameters/> > >>>>>>>>>>> : > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> IANA registry: Path MTU Record Option > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Should the description in the registry instead say "Minimum > >>>>>>>>>>> Path MTU Hop-by-Hop Option"? > >>>>>>>>>>> --> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Auth: Yes, we agree. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 8) <!-- [rfced] Section 8.6: We are having difficulty > >>>>>>>>>>> parsing the following sentence. Does the forged packet > >>>>>>>>>>> cause a packet with a MinPMTU HBH option to be sent? > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Current: > >>>>>>>>>>> When a forged packet causes a packet to be sent including > >>>>>>>>>>> the MinPMTU > >>>>>>>>>>> HBH option and the return path does not forward packets > >>>>>>>>>>> with this > >>>>>>>>>>> option, the packet will be dropped (see Section 6.3.6). > >>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps: > >>>>>>>>>>> When a forged packet causes a packet that includes the > >>>>>>>>>>> MinPMTU HBH option to be sent and the return path does not > >>>>>>>>>>> forward packets with this option, the packet will be > >>>>>>>>>>> dropped (see Section 6.3.6). > >>>>>>>>>>> --> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Auth: Yes. This change looks good > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 9) <!--[rfced] Per RFC 7942 ("Improving Awareness of > >>>>>>>>>>> Running Code: The > >>>>>>>>>>> Implementation Status Section"), may we remove the > >>>>>>>>>>> Implementation > >>>>>>>>>>> Status section? --> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Auth: This section seems correct, we are not sure why it > >>>>>>>>>> should be removed. We think we should keep it, or keep it > >>>>>>>>>> wiyh a preface that says "At the time of publication..." > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 10) <!--[rfced] Informative References: The titles of the > >>>>>>>>>>> following references don't match the information found at > >>>>>>>>>>> the provided URLs. Please review and let us know if/how > >>>>>>>>>>> these references should be updated. Note that if the > >>>>>>>>>>> Implementation Status section is removed, this question > >>>>>>>>>>> becomes moot. > >>>>>>>>>>> Original: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> [VPP_SRC] "VPP Source", > >>>>>>>>>>> <https://gerrit.fd.io/r/c/vpp/+/21948> > >>>>>>>>>>> . > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Auth: The link goes to a page titled "ip: HBH MTU recording > >>>>>>>>>> for IPv6.” That seems correct. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> [WIRESHARK] > >>>>>>>>>>> "Wireshark Network Protocol Analyzer", > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.wireshark.org> > >>>>>>>>>>> . > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Auth: This seems correct. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> [VPP_SRC] "vpp", commit 21948, ip: HBH MTU recording for > >>>>>>>>>>> IPv6, > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> <https://gerrit.fd.io/r/q/project:vpp> > >>>>>>>>>>> . > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Auth: That seems OK. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 11) <!--[rfced] Terminology > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> a) Throughout the text, the following terminology appears > >>>>>>>>>>> to be > >>>>>>>>>>> used inconsistently. Please review these occurrences and > >>>>>>>>>>> let us know > >>>>>>>>>>> if/how they may be made consistent. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Minimum Path MTU (8 instances) vs. minimum Path MTU (2 > >>>>>>>>>>> instances) > >>>>>>>>>>> Option (62 instances) vs. option (106 instances) > >>>>>>>>>>> Option Data (9 instances) vs. option data (2 instances) > >>>>>>>>>>> Reported MTU (1 instance) vs. reported MTU (1 instances) > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> b) For consistency, should parentheses be used in instances > >>>>>>>>>>> that label sizes? > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> For example: size (d') vs. size d' --> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Auth: ??? Bob > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Auth: We have a small preference for the Caps version. For > >>>>>>>>>> example "Minimum Path MTU”. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Auth: We think “ size d’ “ is better without brackets. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> When making this change please keep alignment with the end > >>>>>>>>>> of each line in the diagram. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> 12) <!--[rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" > >>>>>>>>>> portion of the online Style Guide > >>>>>>>>>> <https://www.rfc- > >>>>>>>>>> editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language> > >>>>>>>>>> and let us know if any changes are needed. For example, > >>>>>>>>>> please consider whether "black-holing" should be updated to > >>>>>>>>>> "an infinite loop". > >>>>>>>>>> Auth: > >>>>>>>>>> “black-holing” is a term commonly used in code and papers to > >>>>>>>>>> refre to a "black hole" effect, as in astronomy. It is not > >>>>>>>>>> the same as “an infinite loop”, and does not imply anything > >>>>>>>>>> predjudicial about the word "black" only that no light is > >>>>>>>>>> emitted from a black hole. 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