Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9268 <draft-ietf-6man-mtu-option-15> for your review

Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com> Tue, 02 August 2022 20:43 UTC

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Subject: Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9268 <draft-ietf-6man-mtu-option-15> for your review
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Hi Bob and Gorry,

Thank you for your replies. We have addressed Bob’s questions below and updated  the text to "Datagram Packetization Layer PMTU Discovery (DPLPMTUD)” at the end of Sections 2 and 4. 

Note that we have 12 remaining queries (sent on 7/14/2022). Please review and send us responses to those queries, along with any further updates you may have. 

>> The style of the header diagram in Section 5. "IPv6 Minimum Path MTU Hop-by-Hop Option" was changed.   For example from the draft we submitted:
>> 
>>     Option Type (see Section 4.2 of [RFC8200]):
>> 
>>      BB     00   Skip over this option and continue processing.
>> 
>>      C       1   Option data can change en route to the packet's final
>>                  destination.
>> 
>>      TTTTT 10000 Option Type assigned from IANA [IANA-HBH].
>> 
>> as compared to what is shown in the new RFC editor version:
>> 
>>  Option Type (see Section 4.2 of [RFC8200]):
>> 
>>   BB         00
>> 
>>               Skip over this option and continue processing.
>> 
>>    C          1
>> 
>>               Option data can change en route to the packet's final
>>               destination.
>> 
>>    TTTTT      10000
>> 
>>               Option Type assigned from IANA [IANA-HBH].
>> 
>> 
>> What we did matches the style in RFC8200.  Why was this change made?

The original xml contained this text formatted within <artwork>; however, this is semantically incorrect, so we converted it to be a definitions list. We are unable to apply spacing in a definitions list in the same way that it appeared within <artwork>, but may we format the text as follows?

    Option Type (see Section 4.2 of [RFC8200]):

    BB	 	 00.  Skip over this option and continue processing.

    C       		1.  Option data can change en route to the packet's final
                	destination.

    TTTTT 	10000. Option Type assigned from IANA [IANA-HBH].

>> ---------
>> 
>> I note that the reference to the IANA HBH option registry was changed from:
>> 
>>    [IANA-HBH] "Destination Options and Hop-by-Hop Options",
>>               
>> <https://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv6-parameters/
>>               ipv6-parameters.xhtml#ipv6-parameters-2>
>> .
>> 
>> to:
>> 
>>    [IANA-HBH] IANA, "Destination Options and Hop-by-Hop Options",
>>               
>> <https://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv6-parameters/>
>> .
>> 
>> The original reference goes directly the specific Destination Options and Hop-by-Hop Options registry, where the new one goes to the general IPv6 parameter registry.   Why the change?

We updated the reference per input from IANA. IANA recommended that RFCs point to the top-most registry since they are considered stable; they prefer that the direct URLs to specific registries on a page not be used.


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Thank you,
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> On Aug 1, 2022, at 11:29 AM, Gorry Fairhurst <gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
> On 01/08/2022 18:55, Bob Hinden wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I reviewed the diff.   The majority of the changes look fine, but I have a few questions about two of them.
>> 
>> -------------
>> 
>> The style of the header diagram in Section 5. "IPv6 Minimum Path MTU Hop-by-Hop Option" was changed.   For example from the draft we submitted:
>> 
>>     Option Type (see Section 4.2 of [RFC8200]):
>> 
>>      BB     00   Skip over this option and continue processing.
>> 
>>      C       1   Option data can change en route to the packet's final
>>                  destination.
>> 
>>      TTTTT 10000 Option Type assigned from IANA [IANA-HBH].
>> 
>> as compared to what is shown in the new RFC editor version:
>> 
>>  Option Type (see Section 4.2 of [RFC8200]):
>> 
>>   BB         00
>> 
>>               Skip over this option and continue processing.
>> 
>>    C          1
>> 
>>               Option data can change en route to the packet's final
>>               destination.
>> 
>>    TTTTT      10000
>> 
>>               Option Type assigned from IANA [IANA-HBH].
>> 
>> 
>> What we did matches the style in RFC8200.  Why was this change made?
>> 
>> ---------
>> 
>> I note that the reference to the IANA HBH option registry was changed from:
>> 
>>    [IANA-HBH] "Destination Options and Hop-by-Hop Options",
>>               
>> <https://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv6-parameters/
>>               ipv6-parameters.xhtml#ipv6-parameters-2>
>> .
>> 
>> to:
>> 
>>    [IANA-HBH] IANA, "Destination Options and Hop-by-Hop Options",
>>               
>> <https://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv6-parameters/>
>> .
>> 
>> The original reference goes directly the specific Destination Options and Hop-by-Hop Options registry, where the new one goes to the general IPv6 parameter registry.   Why the change?
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>>> RFC9268 (draft-ietf-6man-mtu-option-15)
>>> 
>>> Title            : IPv6 Minimum Path MTU Hop-by-Hop Option
>>> Author(s)        : B. Hinden, G. Fairhurst
>>> WG Chair(s)      : Bob Hinden, Ole Trøan, Jen Linkova
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> (1)
> I'm also interested in whether Bob's questions result in chnages, but the rest looks OK, except for the following:
> 
> 
> 
> (2)
> 
> "Datagram Packetization Layer PMTU Discovery (DPLPMTUD)" isn't defined the first time it is used, so would this be better defined in the last line of section 4:
> 
> 
> OLD (as modified by Ed):
> 
> datagram PLPMTUD [RFC8899]
> 
> NEW:
> 
> Datagram Packetization Layer PMTU Discovery (DPLPMTUD) [RFC8899]
> ... 
> 
> 
> 
> If so, you can undo the change you suggested later to add this definition?
> 
> Gorry
> 
>