Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9319 <draft-ietf-sidrops-rpkimaxlen-15> for

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Subject: Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9319 <draft-ietf-sidrops-rpkimaxlen-15> for
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Rebecca,

I should have clarified - the acronym is first (and only once) defined in the abstract. So the substitution there is:

s/ RPKI-based Route Origin Validation (ROV) / RPKI-based Route Origin Validation (RPKI-ROV) /

Sriram




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Subject: RE: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9319 <draft-ietf-sidrops-rpkimaxlen-15> for

Hi Rebecca,

I checked with my co-authors. Ben said, "... so I will leave the final call to you."  My other co-authors have not expressed any objection.

So, I would like to request you to proceed with this change:

s/RPKI-based ROV/RPKI-ROV/    (I counted 3 places)
s/ROV/RPKI-ROV/    (I counted 5 places)

Just FYI... a BITAG (Broadband Internet Technical Advisory Group) report on "The Security of the Internet's Routing Infrastructure" is soon to be published. It has a large number authors/contributors, all well-known names in the networking community. Many of them are also active participants in IETF-SIDROPS and MANRS.  I just found out that they also use RPKI-ROV acronym throughout the document.


You may also plan to include ROV and RPKI-ROV in the IETF abbreviations list:

ROV   - Route Origin Validation

RPKI-ROV   - RPKI-based Route Origin Validation



Thank you.



Sriram

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Subject: RE: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9319 <draft-ietf-sidrops-rpkimaxlen-15> for

Rebecca and Ben,

I see the dilemma that both RFC Editors and authors are having. I think we can set the course straight here for this document as well as for future IETF documents with respect to acronym for RPKI-based Route Origin Validation.

I am proposing leaving ROV definition like what Ben pointed out: ROV == Route Origin Validation (this is found in the existing literature).

So, in this document, I propose we use the acronym RPKI-ROV for RPKI-based Route Origin Validation. We will first use it in the abstract by replacing (ROV) with (RPKI-ROV).

I scanned and find that we have used ROV in the document in only a few places and always meant it to be RPKI-based Route Origin Validation. Therefore,

s/ROV/RPKI-ROV/   (globally)

Then, we replace the new paragraph in the Introduction as follows:

Old Text:

   Please note that the term "RPKI-based Route Origin Validation" and
   the corresponding acronym "ROV" that are used in this document mean
   the same as the term "Prefix Origin Validation" used in [RFC6811].

New Text:

   Please note that the term "RPKI-based Route Origin Validation" and
   the corresponding acronym "RPKI-ROV" that are used in this document mean
   the same as the term "Prefix Origin Validation" used in [RFC6811].

End of New Text.

Note: It is good to establish a unique acronym for RPKI-based ROV since there is also IRR-based ROV in the literature elsewhere. People may loosely use ROV for RPKI-ROV colloquially and that is OK. It does not concern us in this document.

I hope this helps.

Sriram