Re: [auth48] [AD] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9553 <draft-ietf-calext-jscontact-16> for your review
Orie Steele <orie@transmute.industries> Thu, 04 April 2024 22:52 UTC
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Subject: Re: [auth48] [AD] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9553 <draft-ietf-calext-jscontact-16> for your review
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On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 5:13 PM Karen Moore <kmoore@amsl.com> wrote: > — Responsible AD for calext: Orie Steele (adding Orie to the thread) — > > Hi Robert and *Orie (AD), > > We have updated the description for “speakToAs”; our files now reflect > this change. We now await further changes (if needed) and approvals from > the authors. > > *Orie, please review the following questions and let us know if you > approve. > > 1) Changes were submitted twice after the document > was initially approved. Please review the updates from version 15 > to version 17 and let us know if you approve. The updates can > be viewed in this diff file: > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9553-ad-diff.html > > Note that some of the text has been updated for correctness. For example, > “got obsolete” is now “was obsoleted” (Section 3.3) . The current text can > be > viewed here: https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9553-auth48diff.html. > I approve. > > 2) Under "Until Version:" (4 instances), we updated the > key words for clarity by replacing "MUST be not set, or be one of > the allowed values" with "MUST NOT be set or MUST be one of the > allowed values" as shown below. Please review and let us know if > you approve of this change to the key words (see > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9553-auth48diff.html). > > Original: > The Until Version value either MUST NOT be set, or be one of the > allowed values of the version property in the JSContact Enum Value > registry (see Table 1). > > Current: > The Until Version value either MUST NOT be set or MUST be one of > the allowed values of the version property in the "JSContact Values" > registry (see Table 1). > I approve. > > 3) The authors made further changes during AUTH48 (if explanation is > needed, please ask the authors as only the changes were provided). Please > review the following sections and let us know if you approve: Abstract; > Sections 1.1, 1.3.1, 1.3.4, 1.4.4, 1.7.3, 1.7.3.1, 1.9.1, 2.1.2, 2.1.8, > 2.5.1, and 2.8.1; and Figure 40. The changes can be viewed here: > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9553-auth48diff.html. > I approve these changes. > > —FILES (please refresh)— > > The updated XML file is here: > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9553.xml > > The updated output files are here: > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9553.txt > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9553.pdf > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9553.html > > This diff file shows all changes made during AUTH48: > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9553-auth48diff.html > > This diff file shows all changes made to date: > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9553-diff.html > > For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see: > https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9553 > > Best regards, > RFC Editor/kc > > > > >> On Apr 2, 2024, at 6:00 AM, Robert Stepanek <rsto@fastmailteam.com> > wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> On Fri, Mar 22, 2024, at 2:26 AM, Karen Moore wrote: > >>> 2) We updated Table 2 (Section 3.5.2) by removing the reference column > and linking each section number to the corresponding property context (so > it now fits within the 72-character size limit). Please review and let us > know if any further changes are needed. > >> > >> Thank you. No further changes are needed. > >> > >>> > >>> Note that we linked instances of “OrgUnit” to Section 2.2.3. Also > “contexts”, mediaType”, “name”, “label”, “pref”, and “uri” contain > additional section mentions. We handled this by adding, for example, "Also > see Sections 1.4.4 and 1.5.2” under the list of property contexts. Please > let us know if this is agreeable or if you prefer otherwise. > >> > >> Thanks, this is good. > >> > >>> > >>> 3) Regarding the following text, would it be clearer to add “that > directs” or “on” after “information”? > >>> > >>> Current: > >>> speakToAs: SpeakToAs (optional). The information how to address, > speak to, or refer > >>> to the entity that is represented by the Card. > >>> > >>> Perhaps: > >>> speakToAs: SpeakToAs (optional). The information that directs how to > address, speak to, or refer > >>> to the entity that is represented by the Card. > >> > >> Yes, that would be clearer. > >> > >>> > >>> 4) Currently, I-D.ietf-uuidrev-rfc4122bis is in RFC-EDITOR state. We > suggest finalizing AUTH48 for all three companion documents and then > revisiting what state I-D.ietf-uuidrev-rfc4122bis is in prior to > publication. At that time, we will have a better understanding of where > that document is in the process and when it may be published. > >> > >> That is great. > >> > >> Best regards, > >> Robert > >> > >>> > >>>>> 15) <!--[rfced] FYI: For clarity and ease of reading, we added a > reference > >>>>> to RFC 4122 as shown below. > >>>>> > >>>>> Original: > >>>>> As of this writing, a revision [I-D.ietf-uuidrev-rfc4122bis] of the > >>>>> UUID standard document is being worked on and is likely to > >>>>> introduce new UUID versions and best practices to generate global > >>>>> unique identifiers. > >>>>> > >>>>> Current: > >>>>> As of this writing, a revision [UUID] of the Universally Unique > >>>>> Identifier (UUID) Standards Track document [RFC4122] is in > >>>>> progress and will likely introduce new UUID versions and > >>>>> best practices for generating global unique identifiers [UUID]. > >>>>> --> > >>>> > >>>> At best, we could just reference the newly published RFC that > currently is I-D.ietf-uuidrev-rfc4122bis? In this case we would rephrase > that paragraph. Are both RFC 9953 and the UUID document get published at > the same time? > >>> > >>> > >>> 5) Note that the AD will need to approve some of the updates that were > made. We will seek approval once all of the updates are complete. > >>> > >>> —FILES— > >>> The updated XML file is here: > >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9553.xml > >>> > >>> The updated output files are here: > >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9553.txt > >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9553.pdf > >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9553.html > >>> > >>> This diff file shows all changes made during AUTH48: > >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9553-auth48diff.html > >>> > >>> This diff file shows all changes made to date: > >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9553-diff.html > >>> > >>> Note that it may be necessary for you to refresh your browser to view > the most recent version. Please review the document carefully to ensure > satisfaction as we do not make changes once it has been published as an RFC. > >>> > >>> Please contact us with any further updates or with your approval of > the document in its current form. We will await approvals from each author > prior to moving forward in the publication process. > >>> > >>> For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see: > >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9553 > >>> > >>> Best regards, > >>> RFC Editor/kc > >>> > >>> > >>>> On Mar 20, 2024, at 4:12 PM, Robert Stepanek <rsto= > 40fastmailteam.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Thank your for your review. Attached is the updated document. Please > see below for replies and additional remarks. > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2024, at 3:13 AM, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> 3) <!--[rfced] Please clarify the meaning of "reducing complexity of > >>>>> their representation". Is the intended meaning that the > >>>>> attributes must be described as simple key-value pairs to > >>>>> reduce complexity (option A) or to reduce complexity of the > >>>>> representation of the card data (option B)? > >>>>> > >>>>> Original: > >>>>> The attributes of the card data represented must be described as > >>>>> simple key-value pairs, reducing complexity of their > >>>>> representation. > >>>>> > >>>>> Perhaps: > >>>>> A) The attributes of the card data being represented must be > >>>>> described as simple key-value pairs to reduce complexity. > >>>>> > >>>>> or > >>>>> > >>>>> B) The attributes of the card data must be described as simple > >>>>> key-value pairs to reduce the complexity of the representation > >>>>> of the card data. > >>>>> --> > >>>> > >>>> Option B. We updated the document accordingly. > >>>> > >>>>> 4) <!-- [rfced] The use of <tt> and <em> > >>>>> > >>>>> a) In the html and pdf outputs, the text enclosed in <tt> is output > in > >>>>> fixed-width font. In the txt output, there are no changes to the > font, > >>>>> and the quotation marks have been removed. > >>>>> > >>>>> In the html and pdf outputs, the text enclosed in <em> is output in > >>>>> italics. In the txt output, the text enclosed in <em> appears with an > >>>>> underscore before and after. > >>>>> > >>>>> Please review carefully and let us know if the output is acceptable > or > >>>>> if any updates are needed. > >>>>> > >>>>> b) Some terms appear with and without the "<tt>" element, for > example, > >>>>> "@type", "Card", "version", etc. Please review and let us know if > any > >>>>> updates are needed for consistency. > >>>>> --> > >>>> > >>>> We removed all use of <tt> in the document and replaced with quotes > where appropriate. > >>>> > >>>>> 5) <!--[rfced] Section 1.3.1. Please clarify the meaning of > "qux-ishness" > >>>>> as no other RFCs contain this term. Is it a well-known term, or > >>>>> can it perhaps be rephrased for clarity? > >>>>> > >>>>> Also, we removed the blockquote element from this text > >>>>> because it is not a direct quote. Please let us know > >>>>> if any further updates are needed. > >>>>> > >>>>> Original: > >>>>> A Foo object has the following properties: > >>>>> > >>>>> qux: Number (mandatory). Defines the qux-ishness of this > contact. > >>>>> The value MUST be an integer greater than 0 and less than 10. > >>>>> --> > >>>> > >>>> The term "qux" is a metasyntactic variable names in computer > programming (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metasyntactic_variable). We > now changed this to better known metasyntactic name "baz", as in "foo bar > baz". We did not use "bar" do avoid confusion with the actual English word. > >>>> > >>>> We now use a <ul> to separate the contents of the example from the > rest of the section, thanks to Alice Russo for coming up with this! > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> 14) <!--[rfced] In Section 2.1.8, we updated the order of the > enumerated > >>>>> relation types list by moving "co-resident" and "co-worker" above > >>>>> "colleague". The list is now in alphabetical order. Please let us > >>>>> know of any objections. > >>>>> > >>>>> There are several other lists in the document. Please review and let > >>>>> us know if any other terms should be placed in alphabetical order. > >>>>> --> > >>>> > >>>> The list of NameComponent and AddressComponent kind values > deliberately follows non-alphabetic order, they follow logical order. All > other lists should sort in alphabetical order. > >>>> > >>>>> 15) <!--[rfced] FYI: For clarity and ease of reading, we added a > reference > >>>>> to RFC 4122 as shown below. > >>>>> > >>>>> Original: > >>>>> As of this writing, a revision [I-D.ietf-uuidrev-rfc4122bis] of the > >>>>> UUID standard document is being worked on and is likely to > >>>>> introduce new UUID versions and best practices to generate global > >>>>> unique identifiers. > >>>>> > >>>>> Current: > >>>>> As of this writing, a revision [UUID] of the Universally Unique > >>>>> Identifier (UUID) Standards Track document [RFC4122] is in > >>>>> progress and will likely introduce new UUID versions and > >>>>> best practices for generating global unique identifiers [UUID]. > >>>>> --> > >>>> > >>>> At best, we could just reference the newly published RFC that > currently is I-D.ietf-uuidrev-rfc4122bis? In this case we would rephrase > that paragraph. Are both RFC 9953 and the UUID document get published at > the same time? > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> 20) <!--[rfced] In Figure 39, is the term "autor" correct, or should > it be > >>>>> "author"? > >>>>> > >>>>> Original: > >>>>> "titles/t1/name": "autor" > >>>>> --> > >>>> > >>>> The term "autor" is OK as it exemplifies a Spanish localization. But > we came to realize that "escritor" is the better translation and updated > the document accordingly > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> 21) <!-- [rfced] We have included some specific questions about the > IANA > >>>>> text below. In addition to responding to those questions, please > >>>>> review all of the IANA-related updates carefully and let us know > >>>>> if any further updates are needed. > >>>>> > >>>>> a) FYI: In Section 3.5.1, we placed the "Reference or Description" > entry > >>>>> below the "Change Controller" entry to match the order of the > template > >>>>> at https://www.iana.org/assignments/jscontact/. > >>>>> > >>>>> - As Table is 2 characters past the 72-character limit, may we > reformat > >>>>> the table to fit by removing the Ref column and linking each section > >>>>> number to the corresponding Property Context? For an example of the > output, > >>>>> see <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9553-table.pdf#table-2>. > >>>> > >>>> Yes, please. > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> e) In Section 3.7.1, should the definition of "Reference" be added > >>>>> after "Change Controller" to match the template at > >>>>> https://www.iana.org/assignments/jscontact? Also, since "Initial > >>>>> Contents" is not included in the template, should it be removed and > >>>>> made into a separate paragraph? > >>>> > >>>> Yes, please > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> f) In Section 3.7.2, should the definition of "Change Controller" be > >>>>> added after "Until Version" to match the template at > >>>>> https://www.iana.org/assignments/jscontact? > >>>> > >>>> Yes, please. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Additional remarks: > >>>> > >>>> The "@" in "@type" property is pronounced within the context of this > specification and this is how all people in the working group refer to it. > We rephrased this sentence to start as: "Instead, the @type property" > >>>> > >>>> We moved "Section 1.5.2: extra" to its own section 1.7.3. for > "Reserved Properties" > >>>> > >>>> Section: 2.2.1.3. was mistakenly a subsection of the "name" property > definition. It is now at the right level at 2.2.2. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Thank you! > >>>> Robert Stepanek > >>>> <rfc9553.xml> > > > > -- ORIE STEELE Chief Technology Officer www.transmute.industries <https://transmute.industries>
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