Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9556 <draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge-10> for your review
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Subject: Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9556 <draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge-10> for your review
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Hi Matthias, We have noted your approval: https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9556 Once we’ve received Eve’s approval, we will move this document forward in the publication process. Thank you, RFC Editor/ap > On Apr 4, 2024, at 2:33 AM, Matthias Kovatsch <ietf@kovatsch.net> wrote: > > Dear Alanna > > I hereby also approve the publication. > > Kind regards, > Matthias > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2024 5:14 PM >> To: Yong-Geun Hong <yonggeun.hong@gmail.com> >> Cc: Xavier De Foy <Xavier.DeFoy@interdigital.com>; Jungha Hong >> <jhong@etri.re.kr>; Ari Keränen <ari.keranen@ericsson.com>; Colin Perkins >> <csp@csperkins.org>; Matthias Kovatsch <matthias@kovatsch.net>; >> eve.schooler@gmail.com; Kutscher, Dirk <ietf@dkutscher.net>; rfc-editor@rfc- >> editor.org; irsg@irtf.org; auth48archive@rfc-editor.org >> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9556 <draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge-10> for your >> review >> >> Hi Yong-Geun, >> >> You approval has been noted: >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9556 >> >> We will await approvals from Matthias and Eve prior to moving this document >> forward in the publication process. >> >> Thank you, >> RFC Editor/ap >> >>> On Apr 2, 2024, at 4:27 PM, Yong-Geun Hong <yonggeun.hong@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> Dear Alanna Paloma. >>> >>> Thanks for your efforts. >>> >>> I approve the publication of this draft. >>> >>> Best regards. >>> >>> Yong-Geun. >>> >>> 2024년 4월 2일 (화) 오전 9:06, Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com>님이 >> 작성: >>> Hi Xavier, >>> >>> Thank you for your reply. We’ve updated the files accordingly. >>> >>> The files have been posted here (please refresh): >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.txt >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.pdf >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.html >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.xml >>> >>> The relevant diff files are posted here: >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556-diff.html (comprehensive diff) >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556-auth48diff.html (all AUTH48 >> changes) >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556-lastdiff.html (htmlwdiff diff >> between last version and this) >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556-lastrfcdiff.html (rfcdiff between >> last version and this) >>> >>> We will await approvals from each party listed on the AUTH48 status page >> below prior to moving this document forward in the publication process. >>> >>> For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see: >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9556 >>> >>> Thank you, >>> RFC Editor/ap >>> >>>> On Apr 1, 2024, at 6:57 AM, Xavier De Foy >> <Xavier.DeFoy@InterDigital.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Alanna, >>>> >>>> Here is my take on the use of "/" in the draft (if my co-authors agree) >>>> >>>> Original => my suggestion (note: additional note for the editor) >>>> >>>> >>>> 2.1 >>>> and/or => and/or >>>> 2.4 >>>> and/or => and/or >>>> highly available/efficient => highly available and efficient >>>> audio/video => audio and/or video >>>> Artificial intelligence (AI) / machine learning (ML) systems => Artificial >> intelligence (AI) and machine learning (ML) systems >>>> 3.3 >>>> and/or => and/or >>>> 4.2 >>>> devices/sensors => devices and sensors >>>> remote/cloud => remote (e.g., cloud) >>>> remote/cloud => remote (e.g., cloud) >>>> IoT devices/computing nodes => The computing nodes >>>> 4.3 >>>> network/compute/storage => network/compute/storage >>>> (note to the editor: actually, if using / here is a problem, possibly use >> "network, compute, and storage", but I find the resulting sentence hard to >> parse) >>>> 4.3.2 >>>> multi-vendor/operator => multi-vendor and multi-operator >>>> 4.4.1 >>>> compute/storage => compute and storage >>>> to/from => to or from >>>> distributed/peer-to-peer => distributed (e.g., peer-to-peer) >>>> 4.4.2 >>>> stored/cached data => data stored or cached >>>> 4.4.3 >>>> local/mobile => local or mobile >>>> 4.5.1 >>>> edge/local => local (e.g., edge) >>>> functions/services => functions and services >>>> 4.5.2 >>>> AI/ML => AI/ML (note: keep as is, this is a common contraction) >>>> >>>> >>>> Best Regards, >>>> Xavier. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com> >>>> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 2:26 PM >>>> To: Jungha Hong <jhong@etri.re.kr> >>>> Cc: Ari Keränen <ari.keranen@ericsson.com>; Colin Perkins >> <csp@csperkins.org>; yonggeun.hong@gmail.com; Xavier De Foy >> <Xavier.DeFoy@InterDigital.com>; ietf@kovatsch.net; >> eve.schooler@gmail.com; Kutscher, Dirk <ietf@dkutscher.net>; rfc-editor@rfc- >> editor.org; irsg@irtf.org; auth48archive@rfc-editor.org >>>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9556 <draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge-10> for your >> review >>>> >>>> Hi Jungha, >>>> >>>> Thank you for your reply. We have updated the files accordingly. >>>> >>>> Please note that we have one remaining query: >>>>> ) Might it be helpful to the reader to clarify the slash in cases like the >> following (i.e., does it stand for "and", "or", or "and/or"?)? Note: this appears >> in several places, the following is just an example. >>>>> >>>>> Original: >>>>> The IoT gateway plays a common role in providing access to a >>>>> heterogeneous set of IoT devices/sensors,... >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps: >>>>> The IoT gateway plays a common role in providing access to a >>>>> heterogeneous set of IoT devices and sensors,… >>>> >>>> … >>>> The files have been posted here (please refresh): >>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.txt >>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.pdf >>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.html >>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.xml >>>> >>>> The relevant diff files are posted here: >>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556-diff.html (comprehensive diff) >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556-auth48diff.html (all AUTH48 >> changes) https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556-lastdiff.html (htmlwdiff >> diff between last version and this) https://www.rfc- >> editor.org/authors/rfc9556-lastrfcdiff.html (rfcdiff between last version and >> this) >>>> >>>> For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see: >>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9556 >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> RFC Editor/ap >>>> >>>>> On Mar 22, 2024, at 9:48 AM, Jungha Hong <jhong@etri.re.kr> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Please find my answers inline with [JH]. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2024 1:23 AM >>>>> To: Ari Keränen <ari.keranen@ericsson.com>; Colin Perkins >>>>> <csp@csperkins.org>; jhong@etri.re.kr; yonggeun.hong@gmail.com; >> Xavier >>>>> De Foy <Xavier.DeFoy=40InterDigital.com@dmarc.ietf.org>; >>>>> ietf@kovatsch.net; eve.schooler@gmail.com; Kutscher, Dirk >>>>> <ietf@dkutscher.net> >>>>> Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org; irsg@irtf.org; >>>>> auth48archive@rfc-editor.org >>>>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9556 <draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge-10> for >>>>> your review >>>>> >>>>> Authors, Ari, and Colin, >>>>> >>>>> Thank you for your replies. We have updated the files accordingly. Please >> see below for our additional questions. >>>>> >>>>>> The text in sec 2.4 “Self-driving car”says : >>>>>> such as high-resolution cameras, radars, Light Detection and >>>>>> Ranging (LiDAR), sonar sensors, and GPS systems Since we say “radars” >> should we also say “LiDARs” or change “radars” to “radar”? >>>>> >>>>> ) Instead of pluralizing “LiDAR”, may we update it to “LiDAR systems”? >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps: >>>>> With a multitude of sensors, such as high-resolution >>>>> cameras, radars, Light Detection and Ranging (LiDAR) systems, sonar >>>>> sensors, and GPS systems, autonomous vehicles generate vast >>>>> amounts of real-time data. >>>>> >>>>> [JH] “LiDAR systems” is better. >>>>> >>>>> ) Might it be helpful to the reader to clarify the slash in cases like the >> following (i.e., does it stand for "and", "or", or "and/or"?)? Note: this appears >> in several places, the following is just an example. >>>>> >>>>> Original: >>>>> The IoT gateway plays a common role in providing access to a >>>>> heterogeneous set of IoT devices/sensors,... >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps: >>>>> The IoT gateway plays a common role in providing access to a >>>>> heterogeneous set of IoT devices and sensors,… >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> 6) <!--[rfced] Should "device" be updated to "devise" or is there >>>>>>> another way to rephrase this sentence? >>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>> Conversely, a cloud back-end might want to device data even if it is >>>>>>> currently asleep. >>>>>>> Perhaps: >>>>>>> Conversely, a cloud backend might want to access device data even if >>>>>>> the device is currently asleep. >>>>>>> --> >>>>>> Good catch – we meant the second variant. >>>>> >>>>> ) Please clarify, should the sentence be updated to use “devise” or should >> it be updated to the Perhaps text? >>>>> >>>>> [JH] Please update it to the Perhaps text. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> 20) <!--[rfced] Throughout the document, there were certain places >>>>>>> we may have expected a citation. Please review cases like the >>>>>>> following (there may be more, just examples): >>>>>>> As the number of people working on farming has been decreasing over >>>>>>> time,... >>>>>>> *Smart Construction* >>>>>>> Safety is critical at construction sites. Every year, many >>>>>>> construction workers lose their lives because of falls, collisions, >>>>>>> electric shocks, and other accidents. >>>>>>> Policy makers have begun to provide frameworks that limit the usage >>>>>>> of personal data and impose strict requirements on data controllers >>>>>>> and processors. >>>>>>> --> >>>>>> Good point – I suggest that we (authors) go through the document and >> add references to such statements. >>>>> >>>>> ) Please note that we still await word regarding where citations should be >> added. >>>>> >>>>> [JH] I have added 8 citations as follows: >>>>> >>>>> *Smart Factory* >>>>> The use of edge computing in a smart factory [Jamilu] can reduce the >>>>> cost of network and storage resources by reducing the communication >>>>> load to the central data center or server. >>>>> >>>>> [Jamilu] Argungu, J., Idina, M., Chalawa, U., Ummar, M., Bello, S., Arzika, I., >> and Mala, B., >>>>> "A Survey of Edge Computing Approaches in Smart Factory", International >> Journal of Advanced >>>>> Research in Computer and Communication Engineering, Vol. 12, Issue >> 9, September 2023. >>>>> >>>>> *Smart Grid* >>>>> In future smart city scenarios, the Smart Grid will be critical in >>>>> ensuring highly available/efficient energy control in city-wide >>>>> electricity management [Mehmood]. >>>>> >>>>> [Mehmood] Mehmood, M., Oad, A., Abrar, M., Munir, H., Hasan, S., >> Muqeet, H., and Golilarz, N., >>>>> "Edge computing for IoT-enabled smart grid", Security and >> Communication Networks, Vol. 2021, >>>>> Article ID 5524025, https://doi.org/10.1155/2021/5524025. >>>>> >>>>> *Smart Agriculture* >>>>> In existing farms, simple systems such as management according to >>>>> temperature and humidity can be easily and inexpensively implemented >>>>> using IoT technology [Tanveer]. >>>>> >>>>> As the number of people working on farming has been decreasing over >>>>> time, increasing automation enabled by edge computing can be a driving >>>>> force for future smart agriculture [OGrady]. >>>>> >>>>> [Tanveer] Tanveer, S., Sree, N., Bhavana, B., and Varsha, D., "Smart >> Agriculture System using IoT", >>>>> 2022 IEEE World Conference on Applied Intelligence and Computing >> (AIC), Sonbhadra, India, 2022, >>>>> pp. 482-486, doi: 10.1109/AIC55036.2022.9848948. >>>>> >>>>> [OGrady] O'Grady, M., Langton, D., and O'Hare, G., "Edge computing: A >> tractable model for smart agriculture?", >>>>> Artificial Intelligence in Agriculture, Vol. 3, September 2019, Pages >> 42-51, https://doi.org/10.1016/j.aiia.2019.12.001. >>>>> >>>>> *Smart Construction* >>>>> Safety is critical at construction sites. Every year, many >>>>> construction workers lose their lives because of falls, collisions, >>>>> electric shocks, and other accidents [BigRentz]. >>>>> >>>>> Using edge computing[Yue], data generated at the construction site can >>>>> be processed and analyzed on an edge server located within or near the >>>>> site. >>>>> >>>>> [BigRentz] BigRentz, "41 Construction Safety Statistics for 2024", >> https://www.bigrentz.com/blog/construction-safety-statistics. >>>>> >>>>> [Yue] Yue, Q.,Mu, S., Zhang, L., Wang, Z., Zhang, Z., Zhang, X., Wang, Y., >> and Miao, Z., >>>>> "Assisting Smart Construction With Reliable Edge Computing >> Technology", Frontiers in Energy Research, Sec. Smart Grids, >>>>> Vol. 10, 2022, https://doi.org/10.3389/fenrg.2022.900298. >>>>> >>>>> *Self-Driving Car* >>>>> Edge computing plays a crucial role in safety-focused self-driving car >> systems [Badjie]. >>>>> >>>>> [Badjie] The Future of Autonomous Driving Systems with Edge Computing, >>>>> https://medium.com/@bakarykumba1996/the-future-of- >> autonomous-driving-systems-with-edge-computing-8c919597c4ee. >>>>> >>>>> *Digital Twin* >>>>> Decision makers can use digital twins to test and validate different >>>>> strategies, identify inefficiencies, and optimize Performance [CertMagic]. >>>>> >>>>> [CertMagic] CertMagic, "Digital Twin Technology: Simulating Real-World >> Scenarios for Enhanced Decision Making", >>>>> https://certmagic.medium.com/digital-twin-technology- >> simulating-real-world-scenarios-for-enhanced-decision-making-8844c51e856d. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> The files have been posted here (please refresh): >>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.txt >>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.pdf >>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.html >>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.xml >>>>> >>>>> The relevant diff files are posted here: >>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556-diff.html (comprehensive >>>>> diff) https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556-auth48diff.html (all >>>>> AUTH48 changes) >>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556-lastdiff.html (htmlwdiff >>>>> diff between last version and this) >>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556-lastrfcdiff.html (rfcdiff >>>>> between last version and this) >>>>> >>>>> For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see: >>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9556 >>>>> >>>>> We will await approvals from each party listed on the AUTH48 status page >> below prior to moving this document forward in the publication process. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you, >>>>> RFC Editor/ap >>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 22, 2024, at 7:51 AM, Ari Keränen <ari.keranen@ericsson.com> >> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> One small thing that I noticed while reading the diff (sending to retracted >> audience since it’s really nitty). The text in sec 2.4 “Self-driving car”says : >>>>>> such as high-resolution cameras, radars, Light Detection and >>>>>> Ranging (LiDAR), sonar sensors, and GPS systems Since we say “radars” >> should we also say “LiDARs” or change “radars” to “radar”? >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Ari >>>>>> From: irsg <irsg-bounces@irtf.org> on behalf of Ari Keränen >>>>>> <ari.keranen=40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org> >>>>>> Date: Friday, 22. March 2024 at 16.35 >>>>>> To: Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com>, Xavier De Foy >>>>>> <Xavier.DeFoy=40InterDigital.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, Kutscher, Dirk >>>>>> <ietf@dkutscher.net>, yonggeun.hong@gmail.com >>>>>> <yonggeun.hong@gmail.com> >>>>>> Cc: auth48archive@rfc-editor.org <auth48archive@rfc-editor.org>, >>>>>> jhong@etri.re.kr <jhong@etri.re.kr>, irsg@irtf.org <irsg@irtf.org>, >>>>>> ietf@kovatsch.net <ietf@kovatsch.net>, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org >>>>>> <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [irsg] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9556 >>>>>> <draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge-10> for your review Hi Authors & Alanna, >>>>>> I believe the “DDS” acronym should be actually “Data Distribution >> Service” instead of “Discovery Domain Set”. >>>>>> Otherwise the updates as discussed below look good to me. >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Ari (as the doc shepherd) >>>>>> From: Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com> >>>>>> Date: Thursday, 21. March 2024 at 20.49 >>>>>> To: Xavier De Foy <Xavier.DeFoy=40InterDigital.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, >>>>>> Kutscher, Dirk <ietf@dkutscher.net>, yonggeun.hong@gmail.com >>>>>> <yonggeun.hong@gmail.com> >>>>>> Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>, >>>>>> jhong@etri.re.kr <jhong@etri.re.kr>, ietf@kovatsch.net >>>>>> <ietf@kovatsch.net>, eve.schooler@gmail.com >> <eve.schooler@gmail.com>, >>>>>> irsg@irtf.org <irsg@irtf.org>, Ari Keränen >>>>>> <ari.keranen@ericsson.com>, auth48archive@rfc-editor.org >>>>>> <auth48archive@rfc-editor.org> >>>>>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9556 <draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge-10> >>>>>> for your review Authors, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you for your replies. We have updated the files as requested. See >> below for additional questions and comments. >>>>>> >>>>>> ) Yong-Geun - In RFC 9453, your name appears as "Y-G.” in the header, >> and in this document, it appears as "Y.-G.” May we update this document to >> remove the period after “Y” to reflect RFC 9453? >>>>>> >>>>>> ) Might it be helpful to the reader to clarify the slash in cases like the >> following (i.e., does it stand for "and", "or", or "and/or"?)? Note: this appears >> in several places, the following is just an example. >>>>>> >>>>>> Original: >>>>>> The IoT gateway plays a common role in providing access to a >>>>>> heterogeneous set of IoT devices/sensors,... >>>>>> >>>>>> Perhaps: >>>>>> The IoT gateway plays a common role in providing access to a >>>>>> heterogeneous set of IoT devices and sensors,… >>>>>> >>>>>>>> 6) <!--[rfced] Should "device" be updated to "devise" or is there >>>>>>>> another way to rephrase this sentence? >>>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>>> Conversely, a cloud back-end might want to device data even if it >>>>>>>> is currently asleep. >>>>>>>> Perhaps: >>>>>>>> Conversely, a cloud backend might want to access device data even >>>>>>>> if the device is currently asleep. >>>>>>>> --> >>>>>>> Good catch – we meant the second variant. >>>>>> >>>>>> ) Please clarify, should the sentence be updated to use “devise” or should >> it be updated to the Perhaps text? >>>>>> >>>>>>>> 9) <!--[rfced] The SVG figures in Section 4.2 have their width and >>>>>>>> height specified, which will make the artwork not scale. Please >>>>>>>> consider whether scaling should be enabled. Scaling will allow the >>>>>>>> figure to be resized when it is viewed on a mobile device; however, >>>>>>>> there may be aesthetic trade-offs (e.g., image may appear too large >>>>>>>> on a desktop screen or different figures may scale differently >>>>>>>> based on their relative sizes). Please review the HTML and PDF >>>>>>>> outputs and let us know how to proceed. >>>>>>>> --> >>>>>>> The figure should probably be scaled so that the font size in the figure >> corresponds to the one in the text and so that the figure is not wider than the >> text width. What is a good way to achieve this in a portable fashion? >>>>>> >>>>>> ) We have removed the width and height attributes from both SVG >> figures in order for them to scale. Please see the HTML and PDF outputs. >>>>>> >>>>>>>> 20) <!--[rfced] Throughout the document, there were certain places >>>>>>>> we may have expected a citation. Please review cases like the >>>>>>>> following (there may be more, just examples): >>>>>>>> As the number of people working on farming has been decreasing over >>>>>>>> time,... >>>>>>>> *Smart Construction* >>>>>>>> Safety is critical at construction sites. 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Note that we do not make changes once a document is >> published as an RFC. >>>>>> >>>>>> We will await approvals from each party listed on the AUTH48 status >> page below prior to moving this document forward in the publication process. >>>>>> >>>>>> For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www/. >>>>>> rfc- >> editor.org%2Fauth48%2Frfc9556&data=05%7C02%7Cari.keranen%40ericss >>>>>> o >>>>>> >> n.com%7Ce84ce8fc30894c03e9f908dc49d78462%7C92e84cebfbfd47abbe5208 >> 0c6b >>>>>> 8 >>>>>> >> 7953f%7C0%7C0%7C638466437584505133%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8 >> eyJWIjoiMC >>>>>> 4 >>>>>> >> wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7 >> C%7C& >>>>>> s >>>>>> >> data=kzFEwCnqIAUny0o13ijF5OqnFQ9N99%2F%2Fz4YshWSMh1s%3D&reserve >> d=0 >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>> RFC Editor/ap >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2024, at 4:13 PM, Xavier De Foy >> <Xavier.DeFoy=40InterDigital.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> Thank you very much for the review and updates. I generally agree with >> Dirks replies and added a few minor comments with the marker [xdf] below. I >> believe at this stage there are a couple of open items (one about the figure, >> and one about possibly adding references). About the figures, I don’t have a >> strong opinion (the current figures, which I guess are still not scaled, look fine >> to me on PC and phone, and I don’t know how to test with scaling). For the >> second point I’ll check with the editor of the use case section. >>>>>>> Best Regards, >>>>>>> Xavier. >>>>>>> From: Dirk Kutscher <ietf@dkutscher.net> >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2024 10:43 AM >>>>>>> To: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org >>>>>>> Cc: jhong@etri.re.kr; yonggeun.hong@gmail.com; Xavier De Foy >>>>>>> <Xavier.DeFoy@InterDigital.com>; ietf@kovatsch.net; >>>>>>> eve.schooler@gmail.com; irsg@irtf.org; ari.keranen@ericsson.com; >>>>>>> auth48archive@rfc-editor.org >>>>>>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9556 <draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge-10> >>>>>>> for your review Hello, many thanks for the careful review and the >>>>>>> questions. >>>>>>> Some answers inline: >>>>>>> 1) <!-- [rfced] Please note that the title of the document has been >>>>>>> updated as follows. Abbreviations have been expanded per Section >>>>>>> 3.6 of RFC 7322 ("RFC Style Guide"). Please review. >>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>> IoT Edge Challenges and Functions >>>>>>> Current: >>>>>>> Internet of Things (IoT) Edge Challenges and Functions >>>>>>> --> >>>>>>> ACK >>>>>>> 2) <!--[rfced] Dirk and Matthias: Is there a "short name" we could >>>>>>> use for your organizations in the header?--> For Dirk: HKUST(GZ) >>>>>>> 3) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that appear >>>>>>> in the title) for use on https://www.rfc-editor.org/search. --> >>>>>>> • >>>>>>> in-network computing >>>>>>> • in network caching >>>>>>> • in network storage >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 4) <!--[rfced] To help with longevity, we have updated uses of >>>>>>> "currently", "today" and the like to say "at the time of writing". >>>>>>> Please let us know any objections.--> ACK >>>>>>> 5) <!--[rfced] Is the meaning of this sentence that IoT technology >>>>>>> is being applied in more types of domains? Or that the applications >>>>>>> listed are more demanding than other domains? (That is, is the >>>>>>> healthcare domain itself more demanding or is there some application >>>>>>> inside the healthcare domain that is more demanding?) >>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>> IoT technology is used with increasingly demanding applications, for >>>>>>> example, in industrial, automotive and healthcare domains, leading >>>>>>> to new challenges. >>>>>>> Perhpas A: >>>>>>> IoT technology is used with increasingly demanding applications in >>>>>>> domains such as industrial, automotive, and healthcare, which leads >>>>>>> to new challenges. >>>>>>> Perhaps B: >>>>>>> IoT technology is used with increasingly demanding applications, for >>>>>>> example, the industrial, automotive, and healthcare domains, leading >>>>>>> to new challenges. >>>>>>> --> >>>>>>> Variant A sounds good. >>>>>>> 6) <!--[rfced] Should "device" be updated to "devise" or is there >>>>>>> another way to rephrase this sentence? >>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>> Conversely, a cloud back-end might want to device data even if it is >>>>>>> currently asleep. >>>>>>> Perhaps: >>>>>>> Conversely, a cloud backend might want to access device data even if >>>>>>> the device is currently asleep. >>>>>>> --> >>>>>>> Good catch – we meant the second variant. >>>>>>> 7) <!--[rfced] The following three sentences use "typically". We >>>>>>> will update to use another word to reduce redundancy unless we hear >>>>>>> objection. >>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>> The service and application life-cycle is typically using an >>>>>>> NFV-like management and orchestration model. >>>>>>> The platform typically enables advertising or consuming services >>>>>>> hosted on the platform (e.g., the Mp1 interface in ETSI MEC supports >>>>>>> service discovery and communication), and enables communication with >>>>>>> local and remote endpoints (e.g., message routing function in IoT >>>>>>> gateways). The platform is typically extensible to edge applications >>>>>>> because it can advertise a service that other edge applications can >>>>>>> consume. >>>>>>> Perhaps: >>>>>>> Typically, the service and application life cycle is using an >>>>>>> NFV-like management and orchestration model. >>>>>>> The platform generally enables advertising or consuming services >>>>>>> hosted on the platform (e.g., the Mp1 interface in ETSI MEC supports >>>>>>> service discovery and communication), and enables communication with >>>>>>> local and remote endpoints (e.g., message routing function in IoT >>>>>>> gateways). The platform is usually extensible to edge applications >>>>>>> because it can advertise a service that other edge applications can >>>>>>> consume. >>>>>>> --> >>>>>>> Yes, thank you. >>>>>>> 8) <!--[rfced] Please review the following questions related to this text: >>>>>>> a) We are having trouble parsing "the list associated logical >>>>>>> functions". Is "list" intended to be a noun or a verb? >>>>>>> b) The placement of "in this section" is somewhat jarring (and makes >>>>>>> two introductory phrases in the sentence). May we update as follows? >>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>> Although there are many approaches to edge computing, in this >>>>>>> section, we attempt to lay out a general model and the list >>>>>>> associated logical functions. >>>>>>> Perhaps A (list is a noun): >>>>>>> Although there are many approaches to edge computing, this section >>>>>>> lays out an attempt at a general model and the list of associated >>>>>>> logical functions. >>>>>>> Perhaps B (list is a verb): >>>>>>> Although there are many approaches to edge computing, this sections >>>>>>> lays out an attempt at a general model and lists associated logical >>>>>>> functions. >>>>>>> --> >>>>>>> Variant B sounds good. >>>>>>> 9) <!--[rfced] The SVG figures in Section 4.2 have their width and >>>>>>> height specified, which will make the artwork not scale. Please >>>>>>> consider whether scaling should be enabled. Scaling will allow the >>>>>>> figure to be resized when it is viewed on a mobile device; however, >>>>>>> there may be aesthetic trade-offs (e.g., image may appear too large >>>>>>> on a desktop screen or different figures may scale differently based >>>>>>> on their relative sizes). Please review the HTML and PDF outputs and >>>>>>> let us know how to proceed. >>>>>>> --> >>>>>>> The figure should probably be scaled so that the font size in the figure >> corresponds to the one in the text and so that the figure is not wider than the >> text width. What is a good way to achieve this in a portable fashion? >>>>>>> [xdf] I don’t have a strong opinion on this, but after checking the pdf >> and html links you provide at the end of this email, on a laptop and on a phone, >> the 2 figures look fine as they are right now. >>>>>>> 10) <!--[rfced] In the following text, how does the last clause >>>>>>> relate to the rest of the sentence? If our suggested rephrase does >>>>>>> not correctly capture your intent, please let us know how to >>>>>>> rephrase. >>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>> In a distributed image processing application, some image processing >>>>>>> functions can be similarly executed at the edge or in the cloud, >>>>>>> while preprocessing, which helps limiting the amount of uploaded >>>>>>> data, is performed by the IoT device. >>>>>>> Perhaps: >>>>>>> Similarly, in a distributed image processing application, some image >>>>>>> processing functions can be executed at the edge or in the cloud, >>>>>>> which helps with limiting the amount of uploaded data to be >>>>>>> performed by the IoT device. >>>>>>> --> >>>>>>> How about this: >>>>>>> Similarly, in a distributed image processing application, some image >>>>>>> processing functions can be executed at the edge or in the cloud. To >> limit the amount of data to be uploaded to central cloud functions, IoT edge >> devices may pre-process data. >>>>>>> 11) <!--[rfced] Should "IRTF attendees" be further clarified? Is >>>>>>> this a particular meeting? Participants of all Research Groups?--> I >>>>>>> suggest "participants of T2TRG meetings". >>>>>>> 12) <!--[rfced] To avoid the awkward readability of both "used" and >>>>>>> "using" in the same sentence, may we make the following update? >>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>> Broker-based solutions can be used, for example, using an IoT >>>>>>> gateway as a broker to discover IoT resources. >>>>>>> Perhaps: >>>>>>> Broker-based solutions can be implemented; an example would be using >>>>>>> an IoT gateway as a broker to discover IoT resources. >>>>>>> --> >>>>>>> How about: >>>>>>> "In a broker-based system, an IoT gateway can act as a broker to >> discover IoT resources." >>>>>>> 13) <!--[rfced] Please review our update to "in replacement or >> complement" >>>>>>> and let us know if it does not capture your intended meaning. >>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>> More decentralized solutions can also be used in replacement or >>>>>>> complement, for example, CoAP enables multicast discovery of an IoT >>>>>>> device, and CoAP service discovery enables obtaining a list of >>>>>>> resources made available by this device [RFC7252]. >>>>>>> Current: >>>>>>> More decentralized solutions can also be used in replacement of or >>>>>>> in complement to the broker-based solutions; for example, CoAP >>>>>>> enables multicast discovery of an IoT device and CoAP service >>>>>>> discovery enables one to obtain a list of resources made available >>>>>>> by this device [RFC7252]. >>>>>>> --> >>>>>>> Yes, much better. >>>>>>> 14) <!--[rfced] Please review our update to the following text to >>>>>>> ensure we've correctly captured your intended meaning. Because this >>>>>>> text includes an example within an example and both are within a >>>>>>> list, please review carefully. >>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>> * Adapting cloud management platforms to the edge, to account for >>>>>>> its distributed nature, e.g., using Conflict-free Replicated Data >>>>>>> Types (CRDT) [Jeffery], heterogeneity and customization, e.g., using >>>>>>> intent-based management mechanisms [Cao], and limited resources. >>>>>>> Current: >>>>>>> * Adapting cloud management platforms to the edge to account for its >>>>>>> distributed nature, e.g., using Conflict-free Replicated Data Types >>>>>>> (CRDTs) [Jeffery], heterogeneity and customization (e.g., using >>>>>>> intent-based management mechanisms [Cao]), and limited resources >>>>>>> --> >>>>>>> Thanks for spotting this. This sentence seems problematic for a couple >> of reasons. The examples are quite specific. If co-authors and our shepherd >> agree, we could simplify as follows: >>>>>>> Adapting cloud management platforms to the edge to account for its >> distributed nature, heterogeneity, need for customization, and limited >> resources. >>>>>>> [xdf] sounds good to me. I would propose keeping the references, by >> adding a sentence after the one proposed by Dirk. Something like this (if co- >> authors and shepherd agree): >>>>>>> OLD: >>>>>>> * Adapting cloud management platforms to the edge, to account for >>>>>>> its distributed nature, e.g., using Conflict-free Replicated Data >>>>>>> Types (CRDT) [Jeffery], heterogeneity and customization, e.g., using >>>>>>> intent-based management mechanisms [Cao], and limited resources. >>>>>>> NEW: >>>>>>> * Adapting cloud management platforms to the edge to account for its >> distributed nature, heterogeneity, need for customization, and limited >> resources. For example, using Conflict-free Replicated Data Types (CRDTs) >> [Jeffery] or intent-based management mechanisms [Cao]. >>>>>>> 15) <!--[rfced] How can we break this run-on sentence up for the >> reader? >>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>> * (Computation placement) Selecting, in a centralized or >>>>>>> distributed/peer-to-peer manner, an appropriate compute device based >>>>>>> on available resources, location of data input and data sinks, >>>>>>> compute node properties, etc., and with varying goals including >>>>>>> end-to-end latency, privacy, high availability, energy conservation, >>>>>>> or network efficiency, for example, using load- balancing techniques >>>>>>> to avoid congestion. >>>>>>> Perhaps: >>>>>>> * Computation placement: in a centralized or >>>>>>> distributed/peer-to-peer manner, selecting an appropriate compute >>>>>>> device. The selection is based on available resources, location of >>>>>>> data input and data sinks, compute node properties, etc. with >>>>>>> varying goals. These goals include end-to-end latency, privacy, high >>>>>>> availability, energy conservation, or network efficiency. For >>>>>>> example, using load-balancing techniques to avoid congestion. >>>>>>> --> >>>>>>> Yes, much better – thanks! >>>>>>> 16) <!--[rfced] We are having difficulty parsing the parenthetical. >>>>>>> Please review and let us know how it may be updated for clarity. >>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>> * Maintaining consistency, freshness, reliability, and privacy of >>>>>>> stored/cached data in systems that are distributed, constrained, and >>>>>>> dynamic (e.g., owing to end devices and computing nodes churn or >>>>>>> mobility), and which can have additional data governance constraints >>>>>>> on data storage location. >>>>>>> --> >>>>>>> I suggest the following: >>>>>>> • Maintaining consistency, freshness, reliability, and privacy of >>>>>>> stored/cached data in systems that are distributed, constrained, and >> dynamic (e.g., due to node mobility, energy-saving regimes, and disruptions) >> and which can have additional data governance constraints on data storage >> location. >>>>>>> 17) <!--[rfced] Is the following sentence intended to be a list of >>>>>>> characteristics of communication brokering? If so, may we update it >>>>>>> as follows? >>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>> Communication brokering is a typical function of IoT edge computing >>>>>>> that facilitates communication with IoT devices, enabling clients to >>>>>>> register as recipients for data from devices, as well as forwarding/ >>>>>>> routing of traffic to or from IoT devices, enabling various data >>>>>>> discovery and redistribution patterns, for example, north-south with >>>>>>> clouds, east-west with other edge devices >>>>>>> [I-D.mcbride-edge-data-discovery-overview]. >>>>>>> Perhaps: >>>>>>> Communication brokering is a typical function of IoT edge computing >>>>>>> that facilitates communication with IoT devices, enables clients to >>>>>>> register as recipients for data from devices forwards/routes of >>>>>>> traffic to or from IoT devices, enables various data discovery and >>>>>>> redistribution patterns (for example, north-south with clouds and >>>>>>> east-west with other edge devices >>>>>>> [I-D.mcbride-edge-data-discovery-overview]. >>>>>>> --> >>>>>>> Thanks, much better. Some additional edits: >>>>>>> Communication brokering is a typical function of IoT edge computing >>>>>>> that facilitates communication with IoT devices, enables clients to >>>>>>> register as recipients for data from devices, forwards traffic to or >>>>>>> from IoT devices, enables various data discovery and redistribution >>>>>>> patterns (for example, north-south with clouds and east-west with >>>>>>> other edge devices [I-D.mcbride-edge-data-discovery-overview]. >>>>>>> [xdf] minor typo: need to close the parenthesis at the end of the >> paragraph. >>>>>>> 18) <!--[rfced] It's unclear how "dynamic" fits into the sentence below. >>>>>>> Is it meant to read "dynamic environtments"? >>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>> * Addressing concerns such as limited resources, privacy, dynamic, >>>>>>> and heterogeneous environments to deploy machine learning at the >>>>>>> edge: >>>>>>> Perhaps: >>>>>>> * Addressing concerns such as limited resources, privacy, and >>>>>>> dynamic and heterogeneous environments to deploy machine learning >> at >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> edge: >>>>>>> --> >>>>>>> Yes. >>>>>>> 19) <!-- [rfced] Please ensure that the guidelines listed in Section >>>>>>> 2.1 of RFC 5743 have been adhered to in this document. --> IMO, >> "Status of This Memo" has all the required information. >>>>>>> 20) <!--[rfced] Throughout the document, there were certain places >>>>>>> we may have expected a citation. Please review cases like the >>>>>>> following (there may be more, just examples): >>>>>>> As the number of people working on farming has been decreasing over >>>>>>> time,... >>>>>>> *Smart Construction* >>>>>>> Safety is critical at construction sites. Every year, many >>>>>>> construction workers lose their lives because of falls, collisions, >>>>>>> electric shocks, and other accidents. >>>>>>> Policy makers have begun to provide frameworks that limit the usage >>>>>>> of personal data and impose strict requirements on data controllers >>>>>>> and processors. >>>>>>> --> >>>>>>> Good point – I suggest that we (authors) go through the document and >> add references to such statements. >>>>>>> 21) <!-- [rfced] Throughout the text, the following terminology >>>>>>> appears to be used inconsistently. Please review these occurrences >>>>>>> and let us know if/how they may be made consistent. >>>>>>> a) Capitalization >>>>>>> Big Data vs. big data >>>>>>> Cloud vs. cloud >>>>>>> Industrial IoT vs. industrial IoT >>>>>>> Smart Grid vs. smart grid >>>>>>> Thing vs. thing >>>>>>> Edge vs. edge >>>>>>> I'm in favor of using lowercase for all terms except for "Thing". >>>>>>> b) hyphenation >>>>>>> edge computing vs. edge-computing (when in attributive position >>>>>>> (before a noun)) >>>>>>> --> >>>>>>> How about just using "edge computing"? >>>>>>> 22) <!-- [rfced] FYI - We have added expansions for the following >>>>>>> abbreviations per Section 3.6 of RFC 7322 ("RFC Style Guide"). >>>>>>> Please review each expansion in the document carefully to ensure >>>>>>> correctness. >>>>>>> Content Delivery Network (CDN) >>>>>>> Constrained Application Protocol (CoAP) Discovery Domain Set (DDS) >>>>>>> Information-Centric Networking (ICN) Light Detection and Ranging >>>>>>> (LiDAR) Multi-access Edge Computing (MEC) Message Queuing >> Telemetry >>>>>>> Transport (MQTT) Open Platform Communications Unified Architecture >>>>>>> (OPC UA) Software-Defined Networking (SDN) Virtual Machine (VM) >>>>>>> --> >>>>>>> Looks good. >>>>>>> 23) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of >>>>>>> the online Style Guide <https://w/ >>>>>>> ww.rfc- >> editor.org%2Fstyleguide%2Fpart2%2F%23inclusive_language&data= >>>>>>> >> 05%7C02%7Cari.keranen%40ericsson.com%7Ce84ce8fc30894c03e9f908dc49d >> 78 >>>>>>> >> 462%7C92e84cebfbfd47abbe52080c6b87953f%7C0%7C0%7C6384664375845 >> 14144% >>>>>>> >> 7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJB >> TiI6 >>>>>>> >> Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=VnIvjPVfSj92XST0UrVrZ >> 1%2FJ >>>>>>> jSaC864NLBEU00gSYYI%3D&reserved=0> >>>>>>> and let us know if any changes are needed. For example, please >>>>>>> consider whether "native" should be updated. >>>>>>> In addition, please consider whether "traditional" should be updated >>>>>>> for clarity. While the NIST website <https://w/ >>>>>>> ww.nist.gov%2Fnist-research-library%2Fnist-technical-series-publicat >>>>>>> ions-author- >> instructions%23table1&data=05%7C02%7Cari.keranen%40erics >>>>>>> >> son.com%7Ce84ce8fc30894c03e9f908dc49d78462%7C92e84cebfbfd47abbe52 >> 080 >>>>>>> >> c6b87953f%7C0%7C0%7C638466437584520753%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb >> 3d8eyJWI >>>>>>> >> joiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0 >> %7C >>>>>>> >> %7C%7C&sdata=YpmQ82BhRLWV6uZFaYqaTzsvN08TKVXmZSvjlL2RGJw%3D&r >> eserved >>>>>>> =0> indicates that this term is potentially biased, it is also >>>>>>> ambiguous. >>>>>>> "Tradition" is a subjective term, as it is not the same for everyone. >>>>>>> --> >>>>>>> Personally, I don't think "native" and "tradition" needs updating (but >> open to suggestions from co-authors). >>>>>>> Many thanks for the careful review and the useful suggestions! >>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>> Dirk >>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>> RFC Editor/ap/mf >>>>>>> *****IMPORTANT***** >>>>>>> Updated 2024/03/18 >>>>>>> RFC Author(s): >>>>>>> -------------- >>>>>>> Instructions for Completing AUTH48 >>>>>>> Your document has now entered AUTH48. 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- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9556 <draft-irtf-t… Alanna Paloma
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