Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9556 <draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge-10> for your review

Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com> Fri, 05 April 2024 00:14 UTC

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Hi Matthias,

We have noted your approval:
https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9556

Once we’ve received Eve’s approval, we will move this document forward in the publication process.

Thank you,
RFC Editor/ap

> On Apr 4, 2024, at 2:33 AM, Matthias Kovatsch <ietf@kovatsch.net> wrote:
> 
> Dear Alanna
> 
> I hereby also approve the publication.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Matthias
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2024 5:14 PM
>> To: Yong-Geun Hong <yonggeun.hong@gmail.com>
>> Cc: Xavier De Foy <Xavier.DeFoy@interdigital.com>; Jungha Hong
>> <jhong@etri.re.kr>; Ari Keränen <ari.keranen@ericsson.com>; Colin Perkins
>> <csp@csperkins.org>; Matthias Kovatsch <matthias@kovatsch.net>;
>> eve.schooler@gmail.com; Kutscher, Dirk <ietf@dkutscher.net>; rfc-editor@rfc-
>> editor.org; irsg@irtf.org; auth48archive@rfc-editor.org
>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9556 <draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge-10> for your
>> review
>> 
>> Hi Yong-Geun,
>> 
>> You approval has been noted:
>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9556
>> 
>> We will await approvals from Matthias and Eve prior to moving this document
>> forward in the publication process.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> RFC Editor/ap
>> 
>>> On Apr 2, 2024, at 4:27 PM, Yong-Geun Hong <yonggeun.hong@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear Alanna Paloma.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your efforts.
>>> 
>>> I approve the publication of this draft.
>>> 
>>> Best regards.
>>> 
>>> Yong-Geun.
>>> 
>>> 2024년 4월 2일 (화) 오전 9:06, Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com>님이
>> 작성:
>>> Hi Xavier,
>>> 
>>> Thank you for your reply. We’ve updated the files accordingly.
>>> 
>>> The files have been posted here (please refresh):
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.txt
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.pdf
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.html
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.xml
>>> 
>>> The relevant diff files are posted here:
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556-diff.html (comprehensive diff)
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556-auth48diff.html (all AUTH48
>> changes)
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556-lastdiff.html (htmlwdiff diff
>> between last version and this)
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556-lastrfcdiff.html (rfcdiff between
>> last version and this)
>>> 
>>> We will await approvals from each party listed on the AUTH48 status page
>> below prior to moving this document forward in the publication process.
>>> 
>>> For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see:
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9556
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> RFC Editor/ap
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 1, 2024, at 6:57 AM, Xavier De Foy
>> <Xavier.DeFoy@InterDigital.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Alanna,
>>>> 
>>>> Here is my take on the use of "/" in the draft (if my co-authors agree)
>>>> 
>>>> Original => my suggestion (note: additional note for the editor)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 2.1
>>>> and/or => and/or
>>>> 2.4
>>>> and/or => and/or
>>>> highly available/efficient => highly available and efficient
>>>> audio/video => audio and/or video
>>>> Artificial intelligence (AI) / machine learning (ML) systems => Artificial
>> intelligence (AI) and machine learning (ML) systems
>>>> 3.3
>>>> and/or => and/or
>>>> 4.2
>>>> devices/sensors => devices and sensors
>>>> remote/cloud => remote (e.g., cloud)
>>>> remote/cloud => remote (e.g., cloud)
>>>> IoT devices/computing nodes => The computing nodes
>>>> 4.3
>>>> network/compute/storage => network/compute/storage
>>>> (note to the editor: actually, if using / here is a problem, possibly use
>> "network, compute, and storage", but I find the resulting sentence hard to
>> parse)
>>>> 4.3.2
>>>> multi-vendor/operator => multi-vendor and multi-operator
>>>> 4.4.1
>>>> compute/storage => compute and storage
>>>> to/from => to or from
>>>> distributed/peer-to-peer => distributed (e.g., peer-to-peer)
>>>> 4.4.2
>>>> stored/cached data => data stored or cached
>>>> 4.4.3
>>>> local/mobile => local or mobile
>>>> 4.5.1
>>>> edge/local => local (e.g., edge)
>>>> functions/services => functions and services
>>>> 4.5.2
>>>> AI/ML => AI/ML (note: keep as is, this is a common contraction)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Xavier.
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com>
>>>> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 2:26 PM
>>>> To: Jungha Hong <jhong@etri.re.kr>
>>>> Cc: Ari Keränen <ari.keranen@ericsson.com>; Colin Perkins
>> <csp@csperkins.org>; yonggeun.hong@gmail.com; Xavier De Foy
>> <Xavier.DeFoy@InterDigital.com>; ietf@kovatsch.net;
>> eve.schooler@gmail.com; Kutscher, Dirk <ietf@dkutscher.net>; rfc-editor@rfc-
>> editor.org; irsg@irtf.org; auth48archive@rfc-editor.org
>>>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9556 <draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge-10> for your
>> review
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Jungha,
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you for your reply. We have updated the files accordingly.
>>>> 
>>>> Please note that we have one remaining query:
>>>>> ) Might it be helpful to the reader to clarify the slash in cases like the
>> following (i.e., does it stand for "and", "or", or "and/or"?)?  Note: this appears
>> in several places, the following is just an example.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Original:
>>>>> The IoT gateway plays a common role in providing access to a
>>>>> heterogeneous set of IoT devices/sensors,...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>> The IoT gateway plays a common role in providing access to a
>>>>> heterogeneous set of IoT devices and sensors,…
>>>> 
>>>> …
>>>> The files have been posted here (please refresh):
>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.txt
>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.pdf
>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.html
>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.xml
>>>> 
>>>> The relevant diff files are posted here:
>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556-diff.html (comprehensive diff)
>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556-auth48diff.html (all AUTH48
>> changes)  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556-lastdiff.html (htmlwdiff
>> diff between last version and this)  https://www.rfc-
>> editor.org/authors/rfc9556-lastrfcdiff.html (rfcdiff between last version and
>> this)
>>>> 
>>>> For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see:
>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9556
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> RFC Editor/ap
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 22, 2024, at 9:48 AM, Jungha Hong <jhong@etri.re.kr> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please find my answers inline with [JH].
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2024 1:23 AM
>>>>> To: Ari Keränen <ari.keranen@ericsson.com>; Colin Perkins
>>>>> <csp@csperkins.org>; jhong@etri.re.kr; yonggeun.hong@gmail.com;
>> Xavier
>>>>> De Foy <Xavier.DeFoy=40InterDigital.com@dmarc.ietf.org>;
>>>>> ietf@kovatsch.net; eve.schooler@gmail.com; Kutscher, Dirk
>>>>> <ietf@dkutscher.net>
>>>>> Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org; irsg@irtf.org;
>>>>> auth48archive@rfc-editor.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9556 <draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge-10> for
>>>>> your review
>>>>> 
>>>>> Authors, Ari, and Colin,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you for your replies. We have updated the files accordingly. Please
>> see below for our additional questions.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> The text in sec 2.4 “Self-driving car”says :
>>>>>> such as high-resolution cameras, radars, Light Detection and
>>>>>> Ranging (LiDAR), sonar sensors, and GPS systems  Since we say “radars”
>> should we also say “LiDARs” or change “radars” to “radar”?
>>>>> 
>>>>> ) Instead of pluralizing “LiDAR”, may we update it to “LiDAR systems”?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>> With a multitude of sensors, such as high-resolution
>>>>> cameras, radars, Light Detection and Ranging (LiDAR) systems, sonar
>>>>> sensors, and GPS systems, autonomous vehicles generate vast
>>>>> amounts of real-time data.
>>>>> 
>>>>> [JH] “LiDAR systems” is better.
>>>>> 
>>>>> ) Might it be helpful to the reader to clarify the slash in cases like the
>> following (i.e., does it stand for "and", "or", or "and/or"?)?  Note: this appears
>> in several places, the following is just an example.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Original:
>>>>> The IoT gateway plays a common role in providing access to a
>>>>> heterogeneous set of IoT devices/sensors,...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>> The IoT gateway plays a common role in providing access to a
>>>>> heterogeneous set of IoT devices and sensors,…
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 6) <!--[rfced] Should "device" be updated to "devise" or is there
>>>>>>> another way to rephrase this sentence?
>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>> Conversely, a cloud back-end might want to device data even if it is
>>>>>>> currently asleep.
>>>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>>> Conversely, a cloud backend might want to access device data even if
>>>>>>> the device is currently asleep.
>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>> Good catch – we meant the second variant.
>>>>> 
>>>>> ) Please clarify, should the sentence be updated to use “devise” or should
>> it be updated to the Perhaps text?
>>>>> 
>>>>> [JH] Please update it to the Perhaps text.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 20) <!--[rfced] Throughout the document, there were certain places
>>>>>>> we may have expected a citation. Please review cases like the
>>>>>>> following (there may be more, just examples):
>>>>>>> As the number of people working on farming has been decreasing over
>>>>>>> time,...
>>>>>>> *Smart Construction*
>>>>>>> Safety is critical at construction sites. Every year, many
>>>>>>> construction workers lose their lives because of falls, collisions,
>>>>>>> electric shocks, and other accidents.
>>>>>>> Policy makers have begun to provide frameworks that limit the usage
>>>>>>> of personal data and impose strict requirements on data controllers
>>>>>>> and processors.
>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>> Good point – I suggest that we (authors) go through the document and
>> add references to such statements.
>>>>> 
>>>>> ) Please note that we still await word regarding where citations should be
>> added.
>>>>> 
>>>>> [JH] I have added 8 citations as follows:
>>>>> 
>>>>> *Smart Factory*
>>>>> The use of edge computing in a smart factory [Jamilu] can reduce the
>>>>> cost of network and storage resources by reducing the communication
>>>>> load to the central data center or server.
>>>>> 
>>>>> [Jamilu] Argungu, J., Idina, M., Chalawa, U., Ummar, M., Bello, S., Arzika, I.,
>> and Mala, B.,
>>>>>  "A Survey of Edge Computing Approaches in Smart Factory", International
>> Journal of Advanced
>>>>>         Research in Computer and Communication Engineering, Vol. 12, Issue
>> 9, September 2023.
>>>>> 
>>>>> *Smart Grid*
>>>>> In future smart city scenarios, the Smart Grid will be critical in
>>>>> ensuring highly available/efficient energy control in city-wide
>>>>> electricity management [Mehmood].
>>>>> 
>>>>> [Mehmood] Mehmood, M., Oad, A., Abrar, M., Munir, H., Hasan, S.,
>> Muqeet, H., and Golilarz, N.,
>>>>>          "Edge computing for IoT-enabled smart grid", Security and
>> Communication Networks, Vol. 2021,
>>>>>          Article ID 5524025, https://doi.org/10.1155/2021/5524025.
>>>>> 
>>>>> *Smart Agriculture*
>>>>> In existing farms, simple systems such as management according to
>>>>> temperature and humidity can be easily and inexpensively implemented
>>>>> using IoT technology [Tanveer].
>>>>> 
>>>>> As the number of people working on farming has been decreasing over
>>>>> time, increasing automation enabled by edge computing can be a driving
>>>>> force for future smart agriculture [OGrady].
>>>>> 
>>>>> [Tanveer] Tanveer, S., Sree, N., Bhavana, B., and Varsha, D., "Smart
>> Agriculture System using IoT",
>>>>>          2022 IEEE World Conference on Applied Intelligence and Computing
>> (AIC), Sonbhadra, India, 2022,
>>>>>          pp. 482-486, doi: 10.1109/AIC55036.2022.9848948.
>>>>> 
>>>>> [OGrady] O'Grady, M., Langton, D., and O'Hare, G., "Edge computing: A
>> tractable model for smart agriculture?",
>>>>>         Artificial Intelligence in Agriculture, Vol. 3, September 2019, Pages
>> 42-51, https://doi.org/10.1016/j.aiia.2019.12.001.
>>>>> 
>>>>> *Smart Construction*
>>>>> Safety is critical at construction sites. Every year, many
>>>>> construction workers lose their lives because of falls, collisions,
>>>>> electric shocks, and other accidents [BigRentz].
>>>>> 
>>>>> Using edge computing[Yue], data generated at the construction site can
>>>>> be processed and analyzed on an edge server located within or near the
>>>>> site.
>>>>> 
>>>>> [BigRentz] BigRentz, "41 Construction Safety Statistics for 2024",
>> https://www.bigrentz.com/blog/construction-safety-statistics.
>>>>> 
>>>>> [Yue] Yue, Q.,Mu, S., Zhang, L., Wang, Z., Zhang, Z., Zhang, X., Wang, Y.,
>> and Miao, Z.,
>>>>>     "Assisting Smart Construction With Reliable Edge Computing
>> Technology", Frontiers in Energy Research, Sec. Smart Grids,
>>>>>      Vol. 10, 2022, https://doi.org/10.3389/fenrg.2022.900298.
>>>>> 
>>>>> *Self-Driving Car*
>>>>> Edge computing plays a crucial role in safety-focused self-driving car
>> systems [Badjie].
>>>>> 
>>>>> [Badjie] The Future of Autonomous Driving Systems with Edge Computing,
>>>>>         https://medium.com/@bakarykumba1996/the-future-of-
>> autonomous-driving-systems-with-edge-computing-8c919597c4ee.
>>>>> 
>>>>> *Digital Twin*
>>>>> Decision makers can use digital twins to test and validate different
>>>>> strategies, identify inefficiencies, and optimize Performance [CertMagic].
>>>>> 
>>>>> [CertMagic] CertMagic, "Digital Twin Technology: Simulating Real-World
>> Scenarios for Enhanced Decision Making",
>>>>>             https://certmagic.medium.com/digital-twin-technology-
>> simulating-real-world-scenarios-for-enhanced-decision-making-8844c51e856d.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ---
>>>>> The files have been posted here (please refresh):
>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.txt
>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.pdf
>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.html
>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.xml
>>>>> 
>>>>> The relevant diff files are posted here:
>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556-diff.html (comprehensive
>>>>> diff)  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556-auth48diff.html (all
>>>>> AUTH48 changes)
>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556-lastdiff.html (htmlwdiff
>>>>> diff between last version and this)
>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556-lastrfcdiff.html (rfcdiff
>>>>> between last version and this)
>>>>> 
>>>>> For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see:
>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9556
>>>>> 
>>>>> We will await approvals from each party listed on the AUTH48 status page
>> below prior to moving this document forward in the publication process.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>> RFC Editor/ap
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2024, at 7:51 AM, Ari Keränen <ari.keranen@ericsson.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> One small thing that I noticed while reading the diff (sending to retracted
>> audience since it’s really nitty). The text in sec 2.4 “Self-driving car”says :
>>>>>> such as high-resolution cameras, radars, Light Detection and
>>>>>> Ranging (LiDAR), sonar sensors, and GPS systems  Since we say “radars”
>> should we also say “LiDARs” or change “radars” to “radar”?
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Ari
>>>>>> From: irsg <irsg-bounces@irtf.org> on behalf of Ari Keränen
>>>>>> <ari.keranen=40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
>>>>>> Date: Friday, 22. March 2024 at 16.35
>>>>>> To: Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com>, Xavier De Foy
>>>>>> <Xavier.DeFoy=40InterDigital.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, Kutscher, Dirk
>>>>>> <ietf@dkutscher.net>, yonggeun.hong@gmail.com
>>>>>> <yonggeun.hong@gmail.com>
>>>>>> Cc: auth48archive@rfc-editor.org <auth48archive@rfc-editor.org>,
>>>>>> jhong@etri.re.kr <jhong@etri.re.kr>, irsg@irtf.org <irsg@irtf.org>,
>>>>>> ietf@kovatsch.net <ietf@kovatsch.net>, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org
>>>>>> <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [irsg] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9556
>>>>>> <draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge-10> for your review Hi Authors & Alanna,
>>>>>> I believe the “DDS” acronym should be actually “Data Distribution
>> Service” instead of “Discovery Domain Set”.
>>>>>> Otherwise the updates as discussed below look good to me.
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Ari (as the doc shepherd)
>>>>>> From: Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com>
>>>>>> Date: Thursday, 21. March 2024 at 20.49
>>>>>> To: Xavier De Foy <Xavier.DeFoy=40InterDigital.com@dmarc.ietf.org>,
>>>>>> Kutscher, Dirk <ietf@dkutscher.net>, yonggeun.hong@gmail.com
>>>>>> <yonggeun.hong@gmail.com>
>>>>>> Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>,
>>>>>> jhong@etri.re.kr <jhong@etri.re.kr>, ietf@kovatsch.net
>>>>>> <ietf@kovatsch.net>, eve.schooler@gmail.com
>> <eve.schooler@gmail.com>,
>>>>>> irsg@irtf.org <irsg@irtf.org>, Ari Keränen
>>>>>> <ari.keranen@ericsson.com>, auth48archive@rfc-editor.org
>>>>>> <auth48archive@rfc-editor.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9556 <draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge-10>
>>>>>> for your review Authors,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thank you for your replies.  We have updated the files as requested. See
>> below for additional questions and comments.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ) Yong-Geun - In RFC 9453, your name appears as "Y-G.” in the header,
>> and in this document, it appears as "Y.-G.” May we update this document to
>> remove the period after “Y” to reflect RFC 9453?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ) Might it be helpful to the reader to clarify the slash in cases like the
>> following (i.e., does it stand for "and", "or", or "and/or"?)?  Note: this appears
>> in several places, the following is just an example.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>> The IoT gateway plays a common role in providing access to a
>>>>>> heterogeneous set of IoT devices/sensors,...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>> The IoT gateway plays a common role in providing access to a
>>>>>> heterogeneous set of IoT devices and sensors,…
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 6) <!--[rfced] Should "device" be updated to "devise" or is there
>>>>>>>> another way to rephrase this sentence?
>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>> Conversely, a cloud back-end might want to device data even if it
>>>>>>>> is currently asleep.
>>>>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>>>> Conversely, a cloud backend might want to access device data even
>>>>>>>> if the device is currently asleep.
>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>> Good catch – we meant the second variant.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ) Please clarify, should the sentence be updated to use “devise” or should
>> it be updated to the Perhaps text?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 9) <!--[rfced] The SVG figures in Section 4.2 have their width and
>>>>>>>> height specified, which will make the artwork not scale. Please
>>>>>>>> consider whether scaling should be enabled. Scaling will allow the
>>>>>>>> figure to be resized when it is viewed on a mobile device; however,
>>>>>>>> there may be aesthetic trade-offs (e.g., image may appear too large
>>>>>>>> on a desktop screen or different figures may scale differently
>>>>>>>> based on their relative sizes). Please review the HTML and PDF
>>>>>>>> outputs and let us know how to proceed.
>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>> The figure should probably be scaled so that the font size in the figure
>> corresponds to the one in the text and so that the figure is not wider than the
>> text width. What is a good way to achieve this in a portable fashion?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ) We have removed the width and height attributes from both SVG
>> figures in order for them to scale. Please see the HTML and PDF outputs.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 20) <!--[rfced] Throughout the document, there were certain places
>>>>>>>> we may have expected a citation. Please review cases like the
>>>>>>>> following (there may be more, just examples):
>>>>>>>> As the number of people working on farming has been decreasing over
>>>>>>>> time,...
>>>>>>>> *Smart Construction*
>>>>>>>> Safety is critical at construction sites. Every year, many
>>>>>>>> construction workers lose their lives because of falls, collisions,
>>>>>>>> electric shocks, and other accidents.
>>>>>>>> Policy makers have begun to provide frameworks that limit the usage
>>>>>>>> of personal data and impose strict requirements on data controllers
>>>>>>>> and processors.
>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>> Good point – I suggest that we (authors) go through the document and
>> add references to such statements.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ) Please note that we still await word regarding where citations should be
>> added.
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>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>> RFC Editor/ap
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2024, at 4:13 PM, Xavier De Foy
>> <Xavier.DeFoy=40InterDigital.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> Thank you very much for the review and updates. I generally agree with
>> Dirks replies and added a few minor comments with the marker [xdf] below. I
>> believe at this stage there are a couple of open items (one about the figure,
>> and one about possibly adding references).  About the figures, I don’t have a
>> strong opinion (the current figures, which I guess are still not scaled, look fine
>> to me on PC and phone, and I don’t know how to test with scaling). For the
>> second point I’ll check with the editor of the use case section.
>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>> Xavier.
>>>>>>> From: Dirk Kutscher <ietf@dkutscher.net>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2024 10:43 AM
>>>>>>> To: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org
>>>>>>> Cc: jhong@etri.re.kr; yonggeun.hong@gmail.com; Xavier De Foy
>>>>>>> <Xavier.DeFoy@InterDigital.com>; ietf@kovatsch.net;
>>>>>>> eve.schooler@gmail.com; irsg@irtf.org; ari.keranen@ericsson.com;
>>>>>>> auth48archive@rfc-editor.org
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9556 <draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge-10>
>>>>>>> for your review  Hello, many thanks for the careful review and the
>>>>>>> questions.
>>>>>>> Some answers inline:
>>>>>>> 1) <!-- [rfced] Please note that the title of the document has been
>>>>>>> updated as follows. Abbreviations have been expanded per Section
>>>>>>> 3.6 of RFC 7322 ("RFC Style Guide"). Please review.
>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>> IoT Edge Challenges and Functions
>>>>>>> Current:
>>>>>>> Internet of Things (IoT) Edge Challenges and Functions
>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>> ACK
>>>>>>> 2) <!--[rfced] Dirk and Matthias: Is there a "short name" we could
>>>>>>> use for your organizations in the header?--> For Dirk: HKUST(GZ)
>>>>>>> 3) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that appear
>>>>>>> in the title) for use on https://www.rfc-editor.org/search. -->
>>>>>>>  •
>>>>>>> in-network computing
>>>>>>>  • in network caching
>>>>>>>  • in network storage
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 4) <!--[rfced] To help with longevity, we have updated uses of
>>>>>>> "currently", "today" and the like to say "at the time of writing".
>>>>>>> Please let us know any objections.--> ACK
>>>>>>> 5) <!--[rfced] Is the meaning of this sentence that IoT technology
>>>>>>> is being applied in more types of domains? Or that the applications
>>>>>>> listed are more demanding than other domains? (That is, is the
>>>>>>> healthcare domain itself more demanding or is there some application
>>>>>>> inside the healthcare domain that is more demanding?)
>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>> IoT technology is used with increasingly demanding applications, for
>>>>>>> example, in industrial, automotive and healthcare domains, leading
>>>>>>> to new challenges.
>>>>>>> Perhpas A:
>>>>>>> IoT technology is used with increasingly demanding applications in
>>>>>>> domains such as industrial, automotive, and healthcare, which leads
>>>>>>> to new challenges.
>>>>>>> Perhaps B:
>>>>>>> IoT technology is used with increasingly demanding applications, for
>>>>>>> example, the industrial, automotive, and healthcare domains, leading
>>>>>>> to new challenges.
>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>> Variant A sounds good.
>>>>>>> 6) <!--[rfced] Should "device" be updated to "devise" or is there
>>>>>>> another way to rephrase this sentence?
>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>> Conversely, a cloud back-end might want to device data even if it is
>>>>>>> currently asleep.
>>>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>>> Conversely, a cloud backend might want to access device data even if
>>>>>>> the device is currently asleep.
>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>> Good catch – we meant the second variant.
>>>>>>> 7) <!--[rfced] The following three sentences use "typically". We
>>>>>>> will update to use another word to reduce redundancy unless we hear
>>>>>>> objection.
>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>> The service and application life-cycle is typically using an
>>>>>>> NFV-like management and orchestration model.
>>>>>>> The platform typically enables advertising or consuming services
>>>>>>> hosted on the platform (e.g., the Mp1 interface in ETSI MEC supports
>>>>>>> service discovery and communication), and enables communication with
>>>>>>> local and remote endpoints (e.g., message routing function in IoT
>>>>>>> gateways). The platform is typically extensible to edge applications
>>>>>>> because it can advertise a service that other edge applications can
>>>>>>> consume.
>>>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>>> Typically, the service and application life cycle is using an
>>>>>>> NFV-like management and orchestration model.
>>>>>>> The platform generally enables advertising or consuming services
>>>>>>> hosted on the platform (e.g., the Mp1 interface in ETSI MEC supports
>>>>>>> service discovery and communication), and enables communication with
>>>>>>> local and remote endpoints (e.g., message routing function in IoT
>>>>>>> gateways). The platform is usually extensible to edge applications
>>>>>>> because it can advertise a service that other edge applications can
>>>>>>> consume.
>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>> Yes, thank you.
>>>>>>> 8) <!--[rfced] Please review the following questions related to this text:
>>>>>>> a) We are having trouble parsing "the list associated logical
>>>>>>> functions". Is "list" intended to be a noun or a verb?
>>>>>>> b) The placement of "in this section" is somewhat jarring (and makes
>>>>>>> two introductory phrases in the sentence). May we update as follows?
>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>> Although there are many approaches to edge computing, in this
>>>>>>> section, we attempt to lay out a general model and the list
>>>>>>> associated logical functions.
>>>>>>> Perhaps A (list is a noun):
>>>>>>> Although there are many approaches to edge computing, this section
>>>>>>> lays out an attempt at a general model and the list of associated
>>>>>>> logical functions.
>>>>>>> Perhaps B (list is a verb):
>>>>>>> Although there are many approaches to edge computing, this sections
>>>>>>> lays out an attempt at a general model and lists associated logical
>>>>>>> functions.
>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>> Variant B sounds good.
>>>>>>> 9) <!--[rfced] The SVG figures in Section 4.2 have their width and
>>>>>>> height specified, which will make the artwork not scale. Please
>>>>>>> consider whether scaling should be enabled. Scaling will allow the
>>>>>>> figure to be resized when it is viewed on a mobile device; however,
>>>>>>> there may be aesthetic trade-offs (e.g., image may appear too large
>>>>>>> on a desktop screen or different figures may scale differently based
>>>>>>> on their relative sizes). Please review the HTML and PDF outputs and
>>>>>>> let us know how to proceed.
>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>> The figure should probably be scaled so that the font size in the figure
>> corresponds to the one in the text and so that the figure is not wider than the
>> text width. What is a good way to achieve this in a portable fashion?
>>>>>>> [xdf] I don’t have a strong opinion on this, but after checking the pdf
>> and html links you provide at the end of this email, on a laptop and on a phone,
>> the 2 figures look fine as they are right now.
>>>>>>> 10) <!--[rfced] In the following text, how does the last clause
>>>>>>> relate to the rest of the sentence? If our suggested rephrase does
>>>>>>> not correctly capture your intent, please let us know how to
>>>>>>> rephrase.
>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>> In a distributed image processing application, some image processing
>>>>>>> functions can be similarly executed at the edge or in the cloud,
>>>>>>> while preprocessing, which helps limiting the amount of uploaded
>>>>>>> data, is performed by the IoT device.
>>>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>>> Similarly, in a distributed image processing application, some image
>>>>>>> processing functions can be executed at the edge or in the cloud,
>>>>>>> which helps with limiting the amount of uploaded data to be
>>>>>>> performed by the IoT device.
>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>> How about this:
>>>>>>> Similarly, in a distributed image processing application, some image
>>>>>>> processing functions can be executed at the edge or in the cloud. To
>> limit the amount of data to be uploaded to central cloud functions, IoT edge
>> devices may pre-process data.
>>>>>>> 11) <!--[rfced] Should "IRTF attendees" be further clarified? Is
>>>>>>> this a particular meeting? Participants of all Research Groups?--> I
>>>>>>> suggest "participants of T2TRG meetings".
>>>>>>> 12) <!--[rfced] To avoid the awkward readability of both "used" and
>>>>>>> "using" in the same sentence, may we make the following update?
>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>> Broker-based solutions can be used, for example, using an IoT
>>>>>>> gateway as a broker to discover IoT resources.
>>>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>>> Broker-based solutions can be implemented; an example would be using
>>>>>>> an IoT gateway as a broker to discover IoT resources.
>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>> How about:
>>>>>>> "In a broker-based system, an IoT gateway can act as a broker to
>> discover IoT resources."
>>>>>>> 13) <!--[rfced] Please review our update to "in replacement or
>> complement"
>>>>>>> and let us know if it does not capture your intended meaning.
>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>> More decentralized solutions can also be used in replacement or
>>>>>>> complement, for example, CoAP enables multicast discovery of an IoT
>>>>>>> device, and CoAP service discovery enables obtaining a list of
>>>>>>> resources made available by this device [RFC7252].
>>>>>>> Current:
>>>>>>> More decentralized solutions can also be used in replacement of or
>>>>>>> in complement to the broker-based solutions; for example, CoAP
>>>>>>> enables multicast discovery of an IoT device and CoAP service
>>>>>>> discovery enables one to obtain a list of resources made available
>>>>>>> by this device [RFC7252].
>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>> Yes, much better.
>>>>>>> 14) <!--[rfced] Please review our update to the following text to
>>>>>>> ensure we've correctly captured your intended meaning. Because this
>>>>>>> text includes an example within an example and both are within a
>>>>>>> list, please review carefully.
>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>> * Adapting cloud management platforms to the edge, to account for
>>>>>>> its distributed nature, e.g., using Conflict-free Replicated Data
>>>>>>> Types (CRDT) [Jeffery], heterogeneity and customization, e.g., using
>>>>>>> intent-based management mechanisms [Cao], and limited resources.
>>>>>>> Current:
>>>>>>> * Adapting cloud management platforms to the edge to account for its
>>>>>>> distributed nature, e.g., using Conflict-free Replicated Data Types
>>>>>>> (CRDTs) [Jeffery], heterogeneity and customization (e.g., using
>>>>>>> intent-based management mechanisms [Cao]), and limited resources
>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>> Thanks for spotting this. This sentence seems problematic for a couple
>> of reasons. The examples are quite specific. If co-authors and our shepherd
>> agree, we could simplify as follows:
>>>>>>> Adapting cloud management platforms to the edge to account for its
>> distributed nature, heterogeneity, need for customization, and limited
>> resources.
>>>>>>> [xdf] sounds good to me. I would propose keeping the references, by
>> adding a sentence after the one proposed by Dirk. Something like this (if co-
>> authors and shepherd agree):
>>>>>>> OLD:
>>>>>>> * Adapting cloud management platforms to the edge, to account for
>>>>>>> its distributed nature, e.g., using Conflict-free Replicated Data
>>>>>>> Types (CRDT) [Jeffery], heterogeneity and customization, e.g., using
>>>>>>> intent-based management mechanisms [Cao], and limited resources.
>>>>>>> NEW:
>>>>>>> * Adapting cloud management platforms to the edge to account for its
>> distributed nature, heterogeneity, need for customization, and limited
>> resources. For example, using Conflict-free Replicated Data Types (CRDTs)
>> [Jeffery] or intent-based management mechanisms [Cao].
>>>>>>> 15) <!--[rfced] How can we break this run-on sentence up for the
>> reader?
>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>> * (Computation placement) Selecting, in a centralized or
>>>>>>> distributed/peer-to-peer manner, an appropriate compute device based
>>>>>>> on available resources, location of data input and data sinks,
>>>>>>> compute node properties, etc., and with varying goals including
>>>>>>> end-to-end latency, privacy, high availability, energy conservation,
>>>>>>> or network efficiency, for example, using load- balancing techniques
>>>>>>> to avoid congestion.
>>>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>>> * Computation placement: in a centralized or
>>>>>>> distributed/peer-to-peer manner, selecting an appropriate compute
>>>>>>> device. The selection is based on available resources, location of
>>>>>>> data input and data sinks, compute node properties, etc. with
>>>>>>> varying goals. These goals include end-to-end latency, privacy, high
>>>>>>> availability, energy conservation, or network efficiency. For
>>>>>>> example, using load-balancing techniques to avoid congestion.
>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>> Yes, much better – thanks!
>>>>>>> 16) <!--[rfced] We are having difficulty parsing the parenthetical.
>>>>>>> Please review and let us know how it may be updated for clarity.
>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>> * Maintaining consistency, freshness, reliability, and privacy of
>>>>>>> stored/cached data in systems that are distributed, constrained, and
>>>>>>> dynamic (e.g., owing to end devices and computing nodes churn or
>>>>>>> mobility), and which can have additional data governance constraints
>>>>>>> on data storage location.
>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>> I suggest the following:
>>>>>>>  • Maintaining consistency, freshness, reliability, and privacy of
>>>>>>> stored/cached data in systems that are distributed, constrained, and
>> dynamic (e.g., due to node mobility, energy-saving regimes, and disruptions)
>> and which can have additional data governance constraints on data storage
>> location.
>>>>>>> 17) <!--[rfced] Is the following sentence intended to be a list of
>>>>>>> characteristics of communication brokering? If so, may we update it
>>>>>>> as follows?
>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>> Communication brokering is a typical function of IoT edge computing
>>>>>>> that facilitates communication with IoT devices, enabling clients to
>>>>>>> register as recipients for data from devices, as well as forwarding/
>>>>>>> routing of traffic to or from IoT devices, enabling various data
>>>>>>> discovery and redistribution patterns, for example, north-south with
>>>>>>> clouds, east-west with other edge devices
>>>>>>> [I-D.mcbride-edge-data-discovery-overview].
>>>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>>> Communication brokering is a typical function of IoT edge computing
>>>>>>> that facilitates communication with IoT devices, enables clients to
>>>>>>> register as recipients for data from devices forwards/routes of
>>>>>>> traffic to or from IoT devices, enables various data discovery and
>>>>>>> redistribution patterns (for example, north-south with clouds and
>>>>>>> east-west with other edge devices
>>>>>>> [I-D.mcbride-edge-data-discovery-overview].
>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>> Thanks, much better. Some additional edits:
>>>>>>> Communication brokering is a typical function of IoT edge computing
>>>>>>> that facilitates communication with IoT devices, enables clients to
>>>>>>> register as recipients for data from devices, forwards traffic to or
>>>>>>> from IoT devices, enables various data discovery and redistribution
>>>>>>> patterns (for example, north-south with clouds and east-west with
>>>>>>> other edge devices [I-D.mcbride-edge-data-discovery-overview].
>>>>>>> [xdf] minor typo: need to close the parenthesis at the end of the
>> paragraph.
>>>>>>> 18) <!--[rfced] It's unclear how "dynamic" fits into the sentence below.
>>>>>>> Is it meant to read "dynamic environtments"?
>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>> * Addressing concerns such as limited resources, privacy, dynamic,
>>>>>>> and heterogeneous environments to deploy machine learning at the
>>>>>>> edge:
>>>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>>> * Addressing concerns such as limited resources, privacy, and
>>>>>>> dynamic and heterogeneous environments to deploy machine learning
>> at
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> edge:
>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>> 19) <!-- [rfced] Please ensure that the guidelines listed in Section
>>>>>>> 2.1 of RFC 5743 have been adhered to in this document. --> IMO,
>> "Status of This Memo" has all the required information.
>>>>>>> 20) <!--[rfced] Throughout the document, there were certain places
>>>>>>> we may have expected a citation. Please review cases like the
>>>>>>> following (there may be more, just examples):
>>>>>>> As the number of people working on farming has been decreasing over
>>>>>>> time,...
>>>>>>> *Smart Construction*
>>>>>>> Safety is critical at construction sites. Every year, many
>>>>>>> construction workers lose their lives because of falls, collisions,
>>>>>>> electric shocks, and other accidents.
>>>>>>> Policy makers have begun to provide frameworks that limit the usage
>>>>>>> of personal data and impose strict requirements on data controllers
>>>>>>> and processors.
>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>> Good point – I suggest that we (authors) go through the document and
>> add references to such statements.
>>>>>>> 21) <!-- [rfced] Throughout the text, the following terminology
>>>>>>> appears to be used inconsistently. Please review these occurrences
>>>>>>> and let us know if/how they may be made consistent.
>>>>>>> a) Capitalization
>>>>>>> Big Data vs. big data
>>>>>>> Cloud vs. cloud
>>>>>>> Industrial IoT vs. industrial IoT
>>>>>>> Smart Grid vs. smart grid
>>>>>>> Thing vs. thing
>>>>>>> Edge vs. edge
>>>>>>> I'm in favor of using lowercase for all terms except for "Thing".
>>>>>>> b) hyphenation
>>>>>>> edge computing vs. edge-computing (when in attributive position
>>>>>>> (before a noun))
>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>> How about just using "edge computing"?
>>>>>>> 22) <!-- [rfced] FYI - We have added expansions for the following
>>>>>>> abbreviations per Section 3.6 of RFC 7322 ("RFC Style Guide").
>>>>>>> Please review each expansion in the document carefully to ensure
>>>>>>> correctness.
>>>>>>> Content Delivery Network (CDN)
>>>>>>> Constrained Application Protocol (CoAP) Discovery Domain Set (DDS)
>>>>>>> Information-Centric Networking (ICN) Light Detection and Ranging
>>>>>>> (LiDAR) Multi-access Edge Computing (MEC) Message Queuing
>> Telemetry
>>>>>>> Transport (MQTT) Open Platform Communications Unified Architecture
>>>>>>> (OPC UA) Software-Defined Networking (SDN) Virtual Machine (VM)
>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>> Looks good.
>>>>>>> 23) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of
>>>>>>> the online Style Guide <https://w/
>>>>>>> ww.rfc-
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