Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9556 <draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge-10> for your review

Dirk Kutscher <ietf@dkutscher.net> Mon, 08 April 2024 06:30 UTC

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From: Dirk Kutscher <ietf@dkutscher.net>
To: Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com>
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Subject: Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9556 <draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge-10> for your review
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Hi Alanna,

many thanks!

We have been trying to reach Eve, but have not succeeded yet. Please allow for a few more days.

Thanks,
Dirk


On 5 Apr 2024, at 8:14, Alanna Paloma wrote:

> Hi Matthias,
>
> We have noted your approval:
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9556
>
> Once we’ve received Eve’s approval, we will move this document forward in the publication process.
>
> Thank you,
> RFC Editor/ap
>
>> On Apr 4, 2024, at 2:33 AM, Matthias Kovatsch <ietf@kovatsch.net> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Alanna
>>
>> I hereby also approve the publication.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Matthias
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2024 5:14 PM
>>> To: Yong-Geun Hong <yonggeun.hong@gmail.com>
>>> Cc: Xavier De Foy <Xavier.DeFoy@interdigital.com>; Jungha Hong
>>> <jhong@etri.re.kr>; Ari Keränen <ari.keranen@ericsson.com>; Colin Perkins
>>> <csp@csperkins.org>; Matthias Kovatsch <matthias@kovatsch.net>;
>>> eve.schooler@gmail.com; Kutscher, Dirk <ietf@dkutscher.net>; rfc-editor@rfc-
>>> editor.org; irsg@irtf.org; auth48archive@rfc-editor.org
>>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9556 <draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge-10> for your
>>> review
>>>
>>> Hi Yong-Geun,
>>>
>>> You approval has been noted:
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9556
>>>
>>> We will await approvals from Matthias and Eve prior to moving this document
>>> forward in the publication process.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> RFC Editor/ap
>>>
>>>> On Apr 2, 2024, at 4:27 PM, Yong-Geun Hong <yonggeun.hong@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear Alanna Paloma.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your efforts.
>>>>
>>>> I approve the publication of this draft.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards.
>>>>
>>>> Yong-Geun.
>>>>
>>>> 2024년 4월 2일 (화) 오전 9:06, Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com>님이
>>> 작성:
>>>> Hi Xavier,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your reply. We’ve updated the files accordingly.
>>>>
>>>> The files have been posted here (please refresh):
>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.txt
>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.pdf
>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.html
>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.xml
>>>>
>>>> The relevant diff files are posted here:
>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556-diff.html (comprehensive diff)
>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556-auth48diff.html (all AUTH48
>>> changes)
>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556-lastdiff.html (htmlwdiff diff
>>> between last version and this)
>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556-lastrfcdiff.html (rfcdiff between
>>> last version and this)
>>>>
>>>> We will await approvals from each party listed on the AUTH48 status page
>>> below prior to moving this document forward in the publication process.
>>>>
>>>> For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see:
>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9556
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> RFC Editor/ap
>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 1, 2024, at 6:57 AM, Xavier De Foy
>>> <Xavier.DeFoy@InterDigital.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Alanna,
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is my take on the use of "/" in the draft (if my co-authors agree)
>>>>>
>>>>> Original => my suggestion (note: additional note for the editor)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2.1
>>>>> and/or => and/or
>>>>> 2.4
>>>>> and/or => and/or
>>>>> highly available/efficient => highly available and efficient
>>>>> audio/video => audio and/or video
>>>>> Artificial intelligence (AI) / machine learning (ML) systems => Artificial
>>> intelligence (AI) and machine learning (ML) systems
>>>>> 3.3
>>>>> and/or => and/or
>>>>> 4.2
>>>>> devices/sensors => devices and sensors
>>>>> remote/cloud => remote (e.g., cloud)
>>>>> remote/cloud => remote (e.g., cloud)
>>>>> IoT devices/computing nodes => The computing nodes
>>>>> 4.3
>>>>> network/compute/storage => network/compute/storage
>>>>> (note to the editor: actually, if using / here is a problem, possibly use
>>> "network, compute, and storage", but I find the resulting sentence hard to
>>> parse)
>>>>> 4.3.2
>>>>> multi-vendor/operator => multi-vendor and multi-operator
>>>>> 4.4.1
>>>>> compute/storage => compute and storage
>>>>> to/from => to or from
>>>>> distributed/peer-to-peer => distributed (e.g., peer-to-peer)
>>>>> 4.4.2
>>>>> stored/cached data => data stored or cached
>>>>> 4.4.3
>>>>> local/mobile => local or mobile
>>>>> 4.5.1
>>>>> edge/local => local (e.g., edge)
>>>>> functions/services => functions and services
>>>>> 4.5.2
>>>>> AI/ML => AI/ML (note: keep as is, this is a common contraction)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>> Xavier.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 2:26 PM
>>>>> To: Jungha Hong <jhong@etri.re.kr>
>>>>> Cc: Ari Keränen <ari.keranen@ericsson.com>; Colin Perkins
>>> <csp@csperkins.org>; yonggeun.hong@gmail.com; Xavier De Foy
>>> <Xavier.DeFoy@InterDigital.com>; ietf@kovatsch.net;
>>> eve.schooler@gmail.com; Kutscher, Dirk <ietf@dkutscher.net>; rfc-editor@rfc-
>>> editor.org; irsg@irtf.org; auth48archive@rfc-editor.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9556 <draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge-10> for your
>>> review
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Jungha,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for your reply. We have updated the files accordingly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please note that we have one remaining query:
>>>>>> ) Might it be helpful to the reader to clarify the slash in cases like the
>>> following (i.e., does it stand for "and", "or", or "and/or"?)?  Note: this appears
>>> in several places, the following is just an example.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>> The IoT gateway plays a common role in providing access to a
>>>>>> heterogeneous set of IoT devices/sensors,...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>> The IoT gateway plays a common role in providing access to a
>>>>>> heterogeneous set of IoT devices and sensors,…
>>>>>
>>>>> …
>>>>> The files have been posted here (please refresh):
>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.txt
>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.pdf
>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.html
>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.xml
>>>>>
>>>>> The relevant diff files are posted here:
>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556-diff.html (comprehensive diff)
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556-auth48diff.html (all AUTH48
>>> changes)  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556-lastdiff.html (htmlwdiff
>>> diff between last version and this)  https://www.rfc-
>>> editor.org/authors/rfc9556-lastrfcdiff.html (rfcdiff between last version and
>>> this)
>>>>>
>>>>> For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see:
>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9556
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>> RFC Editor/ap
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2024, at 9:48 AM, Jungha Hong <jhong@etri.re.kr> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please find my answers inline with [JH].
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2024 1:23 AM
>>>>>> To: Ari Keränen <ari.keranen@ericsson.com>; Colin Perkins
>>>>>> <csp@csperkins.org>; jhong@etri.re.kr; yonggeun.hong@gmail.com;
>>> Xavier
>>>>>> De Foy <Xavier.DeFoy=40InterDigital.com@dmarc.ietf.org>;
>>>>>> ietf@kovatsch.net; eve.schooler@gmail.com; Kutscher, Dirk
>>>>>> <ietf@dkutscher.net>
>>>>>> Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org; irsg@irtf.org;
>>>>>> auth48archive@rfc-editor.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9556 <draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge-10> for
>>>>>> your review
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Authors, Ari, and Colin,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for your replies. We have updated the files accordingly. Please
>>> see below for our additional questions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The text in sec 2.4 “Self-driving car”says :
>>>>>>> such as high-resolution cameras, radars, Light Detection and
>>>>>>> Ranging (LiDAR), sonar sensors, and GPS systems  Since we say “radars”
>>> should we also say “LiDARs” or change “radars” to “radar”?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ) Instead of pluralizing “LiDAR”, may we update it to “LiDAR systems”?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>> With a multitude of sensors, such as high-resolution
>>>>>> cameras, radars, Light Detection and Ranging (LiDAR) systems, sonar
>>>>>> sensors, and GPS systems, autonomous vehicles generate vast
>>>>>> amounts of real-time data.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [JH] “LiDAR systems” is better.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ) Might it be helpful to the reader to clarify the slash in cases like the
>>> following (i.e., does it stand for "and", "or", or "and/or"?)?  Note: this appears
>>> in several places, the following is just an example.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>> The IoT gateway plays a common role in providing access to a
>>>>>> heterogeneous set of IoT devices/sensors,...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>> The IoT gateway plays a common role in providing access to a
>>>>>> heterogeneous set of IoT devices and sensors,…
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 6) <!--[rfced] Should "device" be updated to "devise" or is there
>>>>>>>> another way to rephrase this sentence?
>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>> Conversely, a cloud back-end might want to device data even if it is
>>>>>>>> currently asleep.
>>>>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>>>> Conversely, a cloud backend might want to access device data even if
>>>>>>>> the device is currently asleep.
>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>> Good catch – we meant the second variant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ) Please clarify, should the sentence be updated to use “devise” or should
>>> it be updated to the Perhaps text?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [JH] Please update it to the Perhaps text.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 20) <!--[rfced] Throughout the document, there were certain places
>>>>>>>> we may have expected a citation. Please review cases like the
>>>>>>>> following (there may be more, just examples):
>>>>>>>> As the number of people working on farming has been decreasing over
>>>>>>>> time,...
>>>>>>>> *Smart Construction*
>>>>>>>> Safety is critical at construction sites. Every year, many
>>>>>>>> construction workers lose their lives because of falls, collisions,
>>>>>>>> electric shocks, and other accidents.
>>>>>>>> Policy makers have begun to provide frameworks that limit the usage
>>>>>>>> of personal data and impose strict requirements on data controllers
>>>>>>>> and processors.
>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>> Good point – I suggest that we (authors) go through the document and
>>> add references to such statements.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ) Please note that we still await word regarding where citations should be
>>> added.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [JH] I have added 8 citations as follows:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Smart Factory*
>>>>>> The use of edge computing in a smart factory [Jamilu] can reduce the
>>>>>> cost of network and storage resources by reducing the communication
>>>>>> load to the central data center or server.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [Jamilu] Argungu, J., Idina, M., Chalawa, U., Ummar, M., Bello, S., Arzika, I.,
>>> and Mala, B.,
>>>>>>  "A Survey of Edge Computing Approaches in Smart Factory", International
>>> Journal of Advanced
>>>>>>         Research in Computer and Communication Engineering, Vol. 12, Issue
>>> 9, September 2023.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Smart Grid*
>>>>>> In future smart city scenarios, the Smart Grid will be critical in
>>>>>> ensuring highly available/efficient energy control in city-wide
>>>>>> electricity management [Mehmood].
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [Mehmood] Mehmood, M., Oad, A., Abrar, M., Munir, H., Hasan, S.,
>>> Muqeet, H., and Golilarz, N.,
>>>>>>          "Edge computing for IoT-enabled smart grid", Security and
>>> Communication Networks, Vol. 2021,
>>>>>>          Article ID 5524025, https://doi.org/10.1155/2021/5524025.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Smart Agriculture*
>>>>>> In existing farms, simple systems such as management according to
>>>>>> temperature and humidity can be easily and inexpensively implemented
>>>>>> using IoT technology [Tanveer].
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As the number of people working on farming has been decreasing over
>>>>>> time, increasing automation enabled by edge computing can be a driving
>>>>>> force for future smart agriculture [OGrady].
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [Tanveer] Tanveer, S., Sree, N., Bhavana, B., and Varsha, D., "Smart
>>> Agriculture System using IoT",
>>>>>>          2022 IEEE World Conference on Applied Intelligence and Computing
>>> (AIC), Sonbhadra, India, 2022,
>>>>>>          pp. 482-486, doi: 10.1109/AIC55036.2022.9848948.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [OGrady] O'Grady, M., Langton, D., and O'Hare, G., "Edge computing: A
>>> tractable model for smart agriculture?",
>>>>>>         Artificial Intelligence in Agriculture, Vol. 3, September 2019, Pages
>>> 42-51, https://doi.org/10.1016/j.aiia.2019.12.001.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Smart Construction*
>>>>>> Safety is critical at construction sites. Every year, many
>>>>>> construction workers lose their lives because of falls, collisions,
>>>>>> electric shocks, and other accidents [BigRentz].
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Using edge computing[Yue], data generated at the construction site can
>>>>>> be processed and analyzed on an edge server located within or near the
>>>>>> site.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [BigRentz] BigRentz, "41 Construction Safety Statistics for 2024",
>>> https://www.bigrentz.com/blog/construction-safety-statistics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [Yue] Yue, Q.,Mu, S., Zhang, L., Wang, Z., Zhang, Z., Zhang, X., Wang, Y.,
>>> and Miao, Z.,
>>>>>>     "Assisting Smart Construction With Reliable Edge Computing
>>> Technology", Frontiers in Energy Research, Sec. Smart Grids,
>>>>>>      Vol. 10, 2022, https://doi.org/10.3389/fenrg.2022.900298.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Self-Driving Car*
>>>>>> Edge computing plays a crucial role in safety-focused self-driving car
>>> systems [Badjie].
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [Badjie] The Future of Autonomous Driving Systems with Edge Computing,
>>>>>>        https://medium.com/@bakarykumba1996/the-future-of-
>>> autonomous-driving-systems-with-edge-computing-8c919597c4ee.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Digital Twin*
>>>>>> Decision makers can use digital twins to test and validate different
>>>>>> strategies, identify inefficiencies, and optimize Performance [CertMagic].
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [CertMagic] CertMagic, "Digital Twin Technology: Simulating Real-World
>>> Scenarios for Enhanced Decision Making",
>>>>>>            https://certmagic.medium.com/digital-twin-technology-
>>> simulating-real-world-scenarios-for-enhanced-decision-making-8844c51e856d.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> The files have been posted here (please refresh):
>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.txt
>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.pdf
>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.html
>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.xml
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The relevant diff files are posted here:
>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556-diff.html (comprehensive
>>>>>> diff)  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556-auth48diff.html (all
>>>>>> AUTH48 changes)
>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556-lastdiff.html (htmlwdiff
>>>>>> diff between last version and this)
>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556-lastrfcdiff.html (rfcdiff
>>>>>> between last version and this)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see:
>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9556
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We will await approvals from each party listed on the AUTH48 status page
>>> below prior to moving this document forward in the publication process.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>> RFC Editor/ap
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2024, at 7:51 AM, Ari Keränen <ari.keranen@ericsson.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One small thing that I noticed while reading the diff (sending to retracted
>>> audience since it’s really nitty). The text in sec 2.4 “Self-driving car”says :
>>>>>>> such as high-resolution cameras, radars, Light Detection and
>>>>>>> Ranging (LiDAR), sonar sensors, and GPS systems  Since we say “radars”
>>> should we also say “LiDARs” or change “radars” to “radar”?
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Ari
>>>>>>> From: irsg <irsg-bounces@irtf.org> on behalf of Ari Keränen
>>>>>>> <ari.keranen=40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
>>>>>>> Date: Friday, 22. March 2024 at 16.35
>>>>>>> To: Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com>, Xavier De Foy
>>>>>>> <Xavier.DeFoy=40InterDigital.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, Kutscher, Dirk
>>>>>>> <ietf@dkutscher.net>, yonggeun.hong@gmail.com
>>>>>>> <yonggeun.hong@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Cc: auth48archive@rfc-editor.org <auth48archive@rfc-editor.org>,
>>>>>>> jhong@etri.re.kr <jhong@etri.re.kr>, irsg@irtf.org <irsg@irtf.org>,
>>>>>>> ietf@kovatsch.net <ietf@kovatsch.net>, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org
>>>>>>> <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [irsg] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9556
>>>>>>> <draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge-10> for your review Hi Authors & Alanna,
>>>>>>> I believe the “DDS” acronym should be actually “Data Distribution
>>> Service” instead of “Discovery Domain Set”.
>>>>>>> Otherwise the updates as discussed below look good to me.
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Ari (as the doc shepherd)
>>>>>>> From: Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com>
>>>>>>> Date: Thursday, 21. March 2024 at 20.49
>>>>>>> To: Xavier De Foy <Xavier.DeFoy=40InterDigital.com@dmarc.ietf.org>,
>>>>>>> Kutscher, Dirk <ietf@dkutscher.net>, yonggeun.hong@gmail.com
>>>>>>> <yonggeun.hong@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>,
>>>>>>> jhong@etri.re.kr <jhong@etri.re.kr>, ietf@kovatsch.net
>>>>>>> <ietf@kovatsch.net>, eve.schooler@gmail.com
>>> <eve.schooler@gmail.com>,
>>>>>>> irsg@irtf.org <irsg@irtf.org>, Ari Keränen
>>>>>>> <ari.keranen@ericsson.com>, auth48archive@rfc-editor.org
>>>>>>> <auth48archive@rfc-editor.org>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9556 <draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge-10>
>>>>>>> for your review Authors,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you for your replies.  We have updated the files as requested. See
>>> below for additional questions and comments.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ) Yong-Geun - In RFC 9453, your name appears as "Y-G.” in the header,
>>> and in this document, it appears as "Y.-G.” May we update this document to
>>> remove the period after “Y” to reflect RFC 9453?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ) Might it be helpful to the reader to clarify the slash in cases like the
>>> following (i.e., does it stand for "and", "or", or "and/or"?)?  Note: this appears
>>> in several places, the following is just an example.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>> The IoT gateway plays a common role in providing access to a
>>>>>>> heterogeneous set of IoT devices/sensors,...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>>> The IoT gateway plays a common role in providing access to a
>>>>>>> heterogeneous set of IoT devices and sensors,…
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 6) <!--[rfced] Should "device" be updated to "devise" or is there
>>>>>>>>> another way to rephrase this sentence?
>>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>>> Conversely, a cloud back-end might want to device data even if it
>>>>>>>>> is currently asleep.
>>>>>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>>>>> Conversely, a cloud backend might want to access device data even
>>>>>>>>> if the device is currently asleep.
>>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>>> Good catch – we meant the second variant.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ) Please clarify, should the sentence be updated to use “devise” or should
>>> it be updated to the Perhaps text?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 9) <!--[rfced] The SVG figures in Section 4.2 have their width and
>>>>>>>>> height specified, which will make the artwork not scale. Please
>>>>>>>>> consider whether scaling should be enabled. Scaling will allow the
>>>>>>>>> figure to be resized when it is viewed on a mobile device; however,
>>>>>>>>> there may be aesthetic trade-offs (e.g., image may appear too large
>>>>>>>>> on a desktop screen or different figures may scale differently
>>>>>>>>> based on their relative sizes). Please review the HTML and PDF
>>>>>>>>> outputs and let us know how to proceed.
>>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>>> The figure should probably be scaled so that the font size in the figure
>>> corresponds to the one in the text and so that the figure is not wider than the
>>> text width. What is a good way to achieve this in a portable fashion?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ) We have removed the width and height attributes from both SVG
>>> figures in order for them to scale. Please see the HTML and PDF outputs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 20) <!--[rfced] Throughout the document, there were certain places
>>>>>>>>> we may have expected a citation. Please review cases like the
>>>>>>>>> following (there may be more, just examples):
>>>>>>>>> As the number of people working on farming has been decreasing over
>>>>>>>>> time,...
>>>>>>>>> *Smart Construction*
>>>>>>>>> Safety is critical at construction sites. Every year, many
>>>>>>>>> construction workers lose their lives because of falls, collisions,
>>>>>>>>> electric shocks, and other accidents.
>>>>>>>>> Policy makers have begun to provide frameworks that limit the usage
>>>>>>>>> of personal data and impose strict requirements on data controllers
>>>>>>>>> and processors.
>>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>>> Good point – I suggest that we (authors) go through the document and
>>> add references to such statements.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ) Please note that we still await word regarding where citations should be
>>> added.
>>>>>>> ---
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please review the document carefully and contact us with any further
>>> updates you may have.  Note that we do not make changes once a document is
>>> published as an RFC.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We will await approvals from each party listed on the AUTH48 status
>>> page below prior to moving this document forward in the publication process.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see:
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>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>> RFC Editor/ap
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2024, at 4:13 PM, Xavier De Foy
>>> <Xavier.DeFoy=40InterDigital.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> Thank you very much for the review and updates. I generally agree with
>>> Dirks replies and added a few minor comments with the marker [xdf] below. I
>>> believe at this stage there are a couple of open items (one about the figure,
>>> and one about possibly adding references).  About the figures, I don’t have a
>>> strong opinion (the current figures, which I guess are still not scaled, look fine
>>> to me on PC and phone, and I don’t know how to test with scaling). For the
>>> second point I’ll check with the editor of the use case section.
>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>> Xavier.
>>>>>>>> From: Dirk Kutscher <ietf@dkutscher.net>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2024 10:43 AM
>>>>>>>> To: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org
>>>>>>>> Cc: jhong@etri.re.kr; yonggeun.hong@gmail.com; Xavier De Foy
>>>>>>>> <Xavier.DeFoy@InterDigital.com>; ietf@kovatsch.net;
>>>>>>>> eve.schooler@gmail.com; irsg@irtf.org; ari.keranen@ericsson.com;
>>>>>>>> auth48archive@rfc-editor.org
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9556 <draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge-10>
>>>>>>>> for your review  Hello, many thanks for the careful review and the
>>>>>>>> questions.
>>>>>>>> Some answers inline:
>>>>>>>> 1) <!-- [rfced] Please note that the title of the document has been
>>>>>>>> updated as follows. Abbreviations have been expanded per Section
>>>>>>>> 3.6 of RFC 7322 ("RFC Style Guide"). Please review.
>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>> IoT Edge Challenges and Functions
>>>>>>>> Current:
>>>>>>>> Internet of Things (IoT) Edge Challenges and Functions
>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>>> ACK
>>>>>>>> 2) <!--[rfced] Dirk and Matthias: Is there a "short name" we could
>>>>>>>> use for your organizations in the header?--> For Dirk: HKUST(GZ)
>>>>>>>> 3) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that appear
>>>>>>>> in the title) for use on https://www.rfc-editor.org/search. -->
>>>>>>>>  •
>>>>>>>> in-network computing
>>>>>>>>  • in network caching
>>>>>>>>  • in network storage
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 4) <!--[rfced] To help with longevity, we have updated uses of
>>>>>>>> "currently", "today" and the like to say "at the time of writing".
>>>>>>>> Please let us know any objections.--> ACK
>>>>>>>> 5) <!--[rfced] Is the meaning of this sentence that IoT technology
>>>>>>>> is being applied in more types of domains? Or that the applications
>>>>>>>> listed are more demanding than other domains? (That is, is the
>>>>>>>> healthcare domain itself more demanding or is there some application
>>>>>>>> inside the healthcare domain that is more demanding?)
>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>> IoT technology is used with increasingly demanding applications, for
>>>>>>>> example, in industrial, automotive and healthcare domains, leading
>>>>>>>> to new challenges.
>>>>>>>> Perhpas A:
>>>>>>>> IoT technology is used with increasingly demanding applications in
>>>>>>>> domains such as industrial, automotive, and healthcare, which leads
>>>>>>>> to new challenges.
>>>>>>>> Perhaps B:
>>>>>>>> IoT technology is used with increasingly demanding applications, for
>>>>>>>> example, the industrial, automotive, and healthcare domains, leading
>>>>>>>> to new challenges.
>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>>> Variant A sounds good.
>>>>>>>> 6) <!--[rfced] Should "device" be updated to "devise" or is there
>>>>>>>> another way to rephrase this sentence?
>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>> Conversely, a cloud back-end might want to device data even if it is
>>>>>>>> currently asleep.
>>>>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>>>> Conversely, a cloud backend might want to access device data even if
>>>>>>>> the device is currently asleep.
>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>>> Good catch – we meant the second variant.
>>>>>>>> 7) <!--[rfced] The following three sentences use "typically". We
>>>>>>>> will update to use another word to reduce redundancy unless we hear
>>>>>>>> objection.
>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>> The service and application life-cycle is typically using an
>>>>>>>> NFV-like management and orchestration model.
>>>>>>>> The platform typically enables advertising or consuming services
>>>>>>>> hosted on the platform (e.g., the Mp1 interface in ETSI MEC supports
>>>>>>>> service discovery and communication), and enables communication with
>>>>>>>> local and remote endpoints (e.g., message routing function in IoT
>>>>>>>> gateways). The platform is typically extensible to edge applications
>>>>>>>> because it can advertise a service that other edge applications can
>>>>>>>> consume.
>>>>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>>>> Typically, the service and application life cycle is using an
>>>>>>>> NFV-like management and orchestration model.
>>>>>>>> The platform generally enables advertising or consuming services
>>>>>>>> hosted on the platform (e.g., the Mp1 interface in ETSI MEC supports
>>>>>>>> service discovery and communication), and enables communication with
>>>>>>>> local and remote endpoints (e.g., message routing function in IoT
>>>>>>>> gateways). The platform is usually extensible to edge applications
>>>>>>>> because it can advertise a service that other edge applications can
>>>>>>>> consume.
>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>>> Yes, thank you.
>>>>>>>> 8) <!--[rfced] Please review the following questions related to this text:
>>>>>>>> a) We are having trouble parsing "the list associated logical
>>>>>>>> functions". Is "list" intended to be a noun or a verb?
>>>>>>>> b) The placement of "in this section" is somewhat jarring (and makes
>>>>>>>> two introductory phrases in the sentence). May we update as follows?
>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>> Although there are many approaches to edge computing, in this
>>>>>>>> section, we attempt to lay out a general model and the list
>>>>>>>> associated logical functions.
>>>>>>>> Perhaps A (list is a noun):
>>>>>>>> Although there are many approaches to edge computing, this section
>>>>>>>> lays out an attempt at a general model and the list of associated
>>>>>>>> logical functions.
>>>>>>>> Perhaps B (list is a verb):
>>>>>>>> Although there are many approaches to edge computing, this sections
>>>>>>>> lays out an attempt at a general model and lists associated logical
>>>>>>>> functions.
>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>>> Variant B sounds good.
>>>>>>>> 9) <!--[rfced] The SVG figures in Section 4.2 have their width and
>>>>>>>> height specified, which will make the artwork not scale. Please
>>>>>>>> consider whether scaling should be enabled. Scaling will allow the
>>>>>>>> figure to be resized when it is viewed on a mobile device; however,
>>>>>>>> there may be aesthetic trade-offs (e.g., image may appear too large
>>>>>>>> on a desktop screen or different figures may scale differently based
>>>>>>>> on their relative sizes). Please review the HTML and PDF outputs and
>>>>>>>> let us know how to proceed.
>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>>> The figure should probably be scaled so that the font size in the figure
>>> corresponds to the one in the text and so that the figure is not wider than the
>>> text width. What is a good way to achieve this in a portable fashion?
>>>>>>>> [xdf] I don’t have a strong opinion on this, but after checking the pdf
>>> and html links you provide at the end of this email, on a laptop and on a phone,
>>> the 2 figures look fine as they are right now.
>>>>>>>> 10) <!--[rfced] In the following text, how does the last clause
>>>>>>>> relate to the rest of the sentence? If our suggested rephrase does
>>>>>>>> not correctly capture your intent, please let us know how to
>>>>>>>> rephrase.
>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>> In a distributed image processing application, some image processing
>>>>>>>> functions can be similarly executed at the edge or in the cloud,
>>>>>>>> while preprocessing, which helps limiting the amount of uploaded
>>>>>>>> data, is performed by the IoT device.
>>>>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>>>> Similarly, in a distributed image processing application, some image
>>>>>>>> processing functions can be executed at the edge or in the cloud,
>>>>>>>> which helps with limiting the amount of uploaded data to be
>>>>>>>> performed by the IoT device.
>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>>> How about this:
>>>>>>>> Similarly, in a distributed image processing application, some image
>>>>>>>> processing functions can be executed at the edge or in the cloud. To
>>> limit the amount of data to be uploaded to central cloud functions, IoT edge
>>> devices may pre-process data.
>>>>>>>> 11) <!--[rfced] Should "IRTF attendees" be further clarified? Is
>>>>>>>> this a particular meeting? Participants of all Research Groups?--> I
>>>>>>>> suggest "participants of T2TRG meetings".
>>>>>>>> 12) <!--[rfced] To avoid the awkward readability of both "used" and
>>>>>>>> "using" in the same sentence, may we make the following update?
>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>> Broker-based solutions can be used, for example, using an IoT
>>>>>>>> gateway as a broker to discover IoT resources.
>>>>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>>>> Broker-based solutions can be implemented; an example would be using
>>>>>>>> an IoT gateway as a broker to discover IoT resources.
>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>>> How about:
>>>>>>>> "In a broker-based system, an IoT gateway can act as a broker to
>>> discover IoT resources."
>>>>>>>> 13) <!--[rfced] Please review our update to "in replacement or
>>> complement"
>>>>>>>> and let us know if it does not capture your intended meaning.
>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>> More decentralized solutions can also be used in replacement or
>>>>>>>> complement, for example, CoAP enables multicast discovery of an IoT
>>>>>>>> device, and CoAP service discovery enables obtaining a list of
>>>>>>>> resources made available by this device [RFC7252].
>>>>>>>> Current:
>>>>>>>> More decentralized solutions can also be used in replacement of or
>>>>>>>> in complement to the broker-based solutions; for example, CoAP
>>>>>>>> enables multicast discovery of an IoT device and CoAP service
>>>>>>>> discovery enables one to obtain a list of resources made available
>>>>>>>> by this device [RFC7252].
>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>>> Yes, much better.
>>>>>>>> 14) <!--[rfced] Please review our update to the following text to
>>>>>>>> ensure we've correctly captured your intended meaning. Because this
>>>>>>>> text includes an example within an example and both are within a
>>>>>>>> list, please review carefully.
>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>> * Adapting cloud management platforms to the edge, to account for
>>>>>>>> its distributed nature, e.g., using Conflict-free Replicated Data
>>>>>>>> Types (CRDT) [Jeffery], heterogeneity and customization, e.g., using
>>>>>>>> intent-based management mechanisms [Cao], and limited resources.
>>>>>>>> Current:
>>>>>>>> * Adapting cloud management platforms to the edge to account for its
>>>>>>>> distributed nature, e.g., using Conflict-free Replicated Data Types
>>>>>>>> (CRDTs) [Jeffery], heterogeneity and customization (e.g., using
>>>>>>>> intent-based management mechanisms [Cao]), and limited resources
>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>>> Thanks for spotting this. This sentence seems problematic for a couple
>>> of reasons. The examples are quite specific. If co-authors and our shepherd
>>> agree, we could simplify as follows:
>>>>>>>> Adapting cloud management platforms to the edge to account for its
>>> distributed nature, heterogeneity, need for customization, and limited
>>> resources.
>>>>>>>> [xdf] sounds good to me. I would propose keeping the references, by
>>> adding a sentence after the one proposed by Dirk. Something like this (if co-
>>> authors and shepherd agree):
>>>>>>>> OLD:
>>>>>>>> * Adapting cloud management platforms to the edge, to account for
>>>>>>>> its distributed nature, e.g., using Conflict-free Replicated Data
>>>>>>>> Types (CRDT) [Jeffery], heterogeneity and customization, e.g., using
>>>>>>>> intent-based management mechanisms [Cao], and limited resources.
>>>>>>>> NEW:
>>>>>>>> * Adapting cloud management platforms to the edge to account for its
>>> distributed nature, heterogeneity, need for customization, and limited
>>> resources. For example, using Conflict-free Replicated Data Types (CRDTs)
>>> [Jeffery] or intent-based management mechanisms [Cao].
>>>>>>>> 15) <!--[rfced] How can we break this run-on sentence up for the
>>> reader?
>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>> * (Computation placement) Selecting, in a centralized or
>>>>>>>> distributed/peer-to-peer manner, an appropriate compute device based
>>>>>>>> on available resources, location of data input and data sinks,
>>>>>>>> compute node properties, etc., and with varying goals including
>>>>>>>> end-to-end latency, privacy, high availability, energy conservation,
>>>>>>>> or network efficiency, for example, using load- balancing techniques
>>>>>>>> to avoid congestion.
>>>>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>>>> * Computation placement: in a centralized or
>>>>>>>> distributed/peer-to-peer manner, selecting an appropriate compute
>>>>>>>> device. The selection is based on available resources, location of
>>>>>>>> data input and data sinks, compute node properties, etc. with
>>>>>>>> varying goals. These goals include end-to-end latency, privacy, high
>>>>>>>> availability, energy conservation, or network efficiency. For
>>>>>>>> example, using load-balancing techniques to avoid congestion.
>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>>> Yes, much better – thanks!
>>>>>>>> 16) <!--[rfced] We are having difficulty parsing the parenthetical.
>>>>>>>> Please review and let us know how it may be updated for clarity.
>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>> * Maintaining consistency, freshness, reliability, and privacy of
>>>>>>>> stored/cached data in systems that are distributed, constrained, and
>>>>>>>> dynamic (e.g., owing to end devices and computing nodes churn or
>>>>>>>> mobility), and which can have additional data governance constraints
>>>>>>>> on data storage location.
>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>>> I suggest the following:
>>>>>>>>  • Maintaining consistency, freshness, reliability, and privacy of
>>>>>>>> stored/cached data in systems that are distributed, constrained, and
>>> dynamic (e.g., due to node mobility, energy-saving regimes, and disruptions)
>>> and which can have additional data governance constraints on data storage
>>> location.
>>>>>>>> 17) <!--[rfced] Is the following sentence intended to be a list of
>>>>>>>> characteristics of communication brokering? If so, may we update it
>>>>>>>> as follows?
>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>> Communication brokering is a typical function of IoT edge computing
>>>>>>>> that facilitates communication with IoT devices, enabling clients to
>>>>>>>> register as recipients for data from devices, as well as forwarding/
>>>>>>>> routing of traffic to or from IoT devices, enabling various data
>>>>>>>> discovery and redistribution patterns, for example, north-south with
>>>>>>>> clouds, east-west with other edge devices
>>>>>>>> [I-D.mcbride-edge-data-discovery-overview].
>>>>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>>>> Communication brokering is a typical function of IoT edge computing
>>>>>>>> that facilitates communication with IoT devices, enables clients to
>>>>>>>> register as recipients for data from devices forwards/routes of
>>>>>>>> traffic to or from IoT devices, enables various data discovery and
>>>>>>>> redistribution patterns (for example, north-south with clouds and
>>>>>>>> east-west with other edge devices
>>>>>>>> [I-D.mcbride-edge-data-discovery-overview].
>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>>> Thanks, much better. Some additional edits:
>>>>>>>> Communication brokering is a typical function of IoT edge computing
>>>>>>>> that facilitates communication with IoT devices, enables clients to
>>>>>>>> register as recipients for data from devices, forwards traffic to or
>>>>>>>> from IoT devices, enables various data discovery and redistribution
>>>>>>>> patterns (for example, north-south with clouds and east-west with
>>>>>>>> other edge devices [I-D.mcbride-edge-data-discovery-overview].
>>>>>>>> [xdf] minor typo: need to close the parenthesis at the end of the
>>> paragraph.
>>>>>>>> 18) <!--[rfced] It's unclear how "dynamic" fits into the sentence below.
>>>>>>>> Is it meant to read "dynamic environtments"?
>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>> * Addressing concerns such as limited resources, privacy, dynamic,
>>>>>>>> and heterogeneous environments to deploy machine learning at the
>>>>>>>> edge:
>>>>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>>>> * Addressing concerns such as limited resources, privacy, and
>>>>>>>> dynamic and heterogeneous environments to deploy machine learning
>>> at
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> edge:
>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>>> 19) <!-- [rfced] Please ensure that the guidelines listed in Section
>>>>>>>> 2.1 of RFC 5743 have been adhered to in this document. --> IMO,
>>> "Status of This Memo" has all the required information.
>>>>>>>> 20) <!--[rfced] Throughout the document, there were certain places
>>>>>>>> we may have expected a citation. Please review cases like the
>>>>>>>> following (there may be more, just examples):
>>>>>>>> As the number of people working on farming has been decreasing over
>>>>>>>> time,...
>>>>>>>> *Smart Construction*
>>>>>>>> Safety is critical at construction sites. Every year, many
>>>>>>>> construction workers lose their lives because of falls, collisions,
>>>>>>>> electric shocks, and other accidents.
>>>>>>>> Policy makers have begun to provide frameworks that limit the usage
>>>>>>>> of personal data and impose strict requirements on data controllers
>>>>>>>> and processors.
>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>>> Good point – I suggest that we (authors) go through the document and
>>> add references to such statements.
>>>>>>>> 21) <!-- [rfced] Throughout the text, the following terminology
>>>>>>>> appears to be used inconsistently. Please review these occurrences
>>>>>>>> and let us know if/how they may be made consistent.
>>>>>>>> a) Capitalization
>>>>>>>> Big Data vs. big data
>>>>>>>> Cloud vs. cloud
>>>>>>>> Industrial IoT vs. industrial IoT
>>>>>>>> Smart Grid vs. smart grid
>>>>>>>> Thing vs. thing
>>>>>>>> Edge vs. edge
>>>>>>>> I'm in favor of using lowercase for all terms except for "Thing".
>>>>>>>> b) hyphenation
>>>>>>>> edge computing vs. edge-computing (when in attributive position
>>>>>>>> (before a noun))
>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>>> How about just using "edge computing"?
>>>>>>>> 22) <!-- [rfced] FYI - We have added expansions for the following
>>>>>>>> abbreviations per Section 3.6 of RFC 7322 ("RFC Style Guide").
>>>>>>>> Please review each expansion in the document carefully to ensure
>>>>>>>> correctness.
>>>>>>>> Content Delivery Network (CDN)
>>>>>>>> Constrained Application Protocol (CoAP) Discovery Domain Set (DDS)
>>>>>>>> Information-Centric Networking (ICN) Light Detection and Ranging
>>>>>>>> (LiDAR) Multi-access Edge Computing (MEC) Message Queuing
>>> Telemetry
>>>>>>>> Transport (MQTT) Open Platform Communications Unified Architecture
>>>>>>>> (OPC UA) Software-Defined Networking (SDN) Virtual Machine (VM)
>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>>> Looks good.
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>>>>>>>> RFC9556 (draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge-10) Title : IoT Edge Challenges
>>>>>>>> and Functions
>>>>>>>> Author(s) : J. Hong, Y. Hong, X. de Foy, M. Kovatsch, E. Schooler,
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