Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9556 <draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge-10> for your review
Dirk Kutscher <ietf@dkutscher.net> Mon, 08 April 2024 06:30 UTC
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From: Dirk Kutscher <ietf@dkutscher.net>
To: Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com>
Cc: Matthias Kovatsch <ietf@kovatsch.net>, Yong-Geun Hong <yonggeun.hong@gmail.com>, Xavier De Foy <Xavier.DeFoy@interdigital.com>, Jungha Hong <jhong@etri.re.kr>, Ari Keränen <ari.keranen@ericsson.com>, Colin Perkins <csp@csperkins.org>, eve.schooler@gmail.com, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org, irsg@irtf.org, auth48archive@rfc-editor.org
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Subject: Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9556 <draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge-10> for your review
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Hi Alanna, many thanks! We have been trying to reach Eve, but have not succeeded yet. Please allow for a few more days. Thanks, Dirk On 5 Apr 2024, at 8:14, Alanna Paloma wrote: > Hi Matthias, > > We have noted your approval: > https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9556 > > Once we’ve received Eve’s approval, we will move this document forward in the publication process. > > Thank you, > RFC Editor/ap > >> On Apr 4, 2024, at 2:33 AM, Matthias Kovatsch <ietf@kovatsch.net> wrote: >> >> Dear Alanna >> >> I hereby also approve the publication. >> >> Kind regards, >> Matthias >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2024 5:14 PM >>> To: Yong-Geun Hong <yonggeun.hong@gmail.com> >>> Cc: Xavier De Foy <Xavier.DeFoy@interdigital.com>; Jungha Hong >>> <jhong@etri.re.kr>; Ari Keränen <ari.keranen@ericsson.com>; Colin Perkins >>> <csp@csperkins.org>; Matthias Kovatsch <matthias@kovatsch.net>; >>> eve.schooler@gmail.com; Kutscher, Dirk <ietf@dkutscher.net>; rfc-editor@rfc- >>> editor.org; irsg@irtf.org; auth48archive@rfc-editor.org >>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9556 <draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge-10> for your >>> review >>> >>> Hi Yong-Geun, >>> >>> You approval has been noted: >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9556 >>> >>> We will await approvals from Matthias and Eve prior to moving this document >>> forward in the publication process. >>> >>> Thank you, >>> RFC Editor/ap >>> >>>> On Apr 2, 2024, at 4:27 PM, Yong-Geun Hong <yonggeun.hong@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear Alanna Paloma. >>>> >>>> Thanks for your efforts. >>>> >>>> I approve the publication of this draft. >>>> >>>> Best regards. >>>> >>>> Yong-Geun. >>>> >>>> 2024년 4월 2일 (화) 오전 9:06, Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com>님이 >>> 작성: >>>> Hi Xavier, >>>> >>>> Thank you for your reply. We’ve updated the files accordingly. >>>> >>>> The files have been posted here (please refresh): >>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.txt >>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.pdf >>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.html >>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.xml >>>> >>>> The relevant diff files are posted here: >>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556-diff.html (comprehensive diff) >>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556-auth48diff.html (all AUTH48 >>> changes) >>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556-lastdiff.html (htmlwdiff diff >>> between last version and this) >>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556-lastrfcdiff.html (rfcdiff between >>> last version and this) >>>> >>>> We will await approvals from each party listed on the AUTH48 status page >>> below prior to moving this document forward in the publication process. >>>> >>>> For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see: >>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9556 >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> RFC Editor/ap >>>> >>>>> On Apr 1, 2024, at 6:57 AM, Xavier De Foy >>> <Xavier.DeFoy@InterDigital.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Alanna, >>>>> >>>>> Here is my take on the use of "/" in the draft (if my co-authors agree) >>>>> >>>>> Original => my suggestion (note: additional note for the editor) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2.1 >>>>> and/or => and/or >>>>> 2.4 >>>>> and/or => and/or >>>>> highly available/efficient => highly available and efficient >>>>> audio/video => audio and/or video >>>>> Artificial intelligence (AI) / machine learning (ML) systems => Artificial >>> intelligence (AI) and machine learning (ML) systems >>>>> 3.3 >>>>> and/or => and/or >>>>> 4.2 >>>>> devices/sensors => devices and sensors >>>>> remote/cloud => remote (e.g., cloud) >>>>> remote/cloud => remote (e.g., cloud) >>>>> IoT devices/computing nodes => The computing nodes >>>>> 4.3 >>>>> network/compute/storage => network/compute/storage >>>>> (note to the editor: actually, if using / here is a problem, possibly use >>> "network, compute, and storage", but I find the resulting sentence hard to >>> parse) >>>>> 4.3.2 >>>>> multi-vendor/operator => multi-vendor and multi-operator >>>>> 4.4.1 >>>>> compute/storage => compute and storage >>>>> to/from => to or from >>>>> distributed/peer-to-peer => distributed (e.g., peer-to-peer) >>>>> 4.4.2 >>>>> stored/cached data => data stored or cached >>>>> 4.4.3 >>>>> local/mobile => local or mobile >>>>> 4.5.1 >>>>> edge/local => local (e.g., edge) >>>>> functions/services => functions and services >>>>> 4.5.2 >>>>> AI/ML => AI/ML (note: keep as is, this is a common contraction) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Best Regards, >>>>> Xavier. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com> >>>>> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 2:26 PM >>>>> To: Jungha Hong <jhong@etri.re.kr> >>>>> Cc: Ari Keränen <ari.keranen@ericsson.com>; Colin Perkins >>> <csp@csperkins.org>; yonggeun.hong@gmail.com; Xavier De Foy >>> <Xavier.DeFoy@InterDigital.com>; ietf@kovatsch.net; >>> eve.schooler@gmail.com; Kutscher, Dirk <ietf@dkutscher.net>; rfc-editor@rfc- >>> editor.org; irsg@irtf.org; auth48archive@rfc-editor.org >>>>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9556 <draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge-10> for your >>> review >>>>> >>>>> Hi Jungha, >>>>> >>>>> Thank you for your reply. We have updated the files accordingly. >>>>> >>>>> Please note that we have one remaining query: >>>>>> ) Might it be helpful to the reader to clarify the slash in cases like the >>> following (i.e., does it stand for "and", "or", or "and/or"?)? Note: this appears >>> in several places, the following is just an example. >>>>>> >>>>>> Original: >>>>>> The IoT gateway plays a common role in providing access to a >>>>>> heterogeneous set of IoT devices/sensors,... >>>>>> >>>>>> Perhaps: >>>>>> The IoT gateway plays a common role in providing access to a >>>>>> heterogeneous set of IoT devices and sensors,… >>>>> >>>>> … >>>>> The files have been posted here (please refresh): >>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.txt >>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.pdf >>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.html >>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.xml >>>>> >>>>> The relevant diff files are posted here: >>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556-diff.html (comprehensive diff) >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556-auth48diff.html (all AUTH48 >>> changes) https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556-lastdiff.html (htmlwdiff >>> diff between last version and this) https://www.rfc- >>> editor.org/authors/rfc9556-lastrfcdiff.html (rfcdiff between last version and >>> this) >>>>> >>>>> For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see: >>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9556 >>>>> >>>>> Thank you, >>>>> RFC Editor/ap >>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 22, 2024, at 9:48 AM, Jungha Hong <jhong@etri.re.kr> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> Please find my answers inline with [JH]. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com> >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2024 1:23 AM >>>>>> To: Ari Keränen <ari.keranen@ericsson.com>; Colin Perkins >>>>>> <csp@csperkins.org>; jhong@etri.re.kr; yonggeun.hong@gmail.com; >>> Xavier >>>>>> De Foy <Xavier.DeFoy=40InterDigital.com@dmarc.ietf.org>; >>>>>> ietf@kovatsch.net; eve.schooler@gmail.com; Kutscher, Dirk >>>>>> <ietf@dkutscher.net> >>>>>> Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org; irsg@irtf.org; >>>>>> auth48archive@rfc-editor.org >>>>>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9556 <draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge-10> for >>>>>> your review >>>>>> >>>>>> Authors, Ari, and Colin, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you for your replies. We have updated the files accordingly. Please >>> see below for our additional questions. >>>>>> >>>>>>> The text in sec 2.4 “Self-driving car”says : >>>>>>> such as high-resolution cameras, radars, Light Detection and >>>>>>> Ranging (LiDAR), sonar sensors, and GPS systems Since we say “radars” >>> should we also say “LiDARs” or change “radars” to “radar”? >>>>>> >>>>>> ) Instead of pluralizing “LiDAR”, may we update it to “LiDAR systems”? >>>>>> >>>>>> Perhaps: >>>>>> With a multitude of sensors, such as high-resolution >>>>>> cameras, radars, Light Detection and Ranging (LiDAR) systems, sonar >>>>>> sensors, and GPS systems, autonomous vehicles generate vast >>>>>> amounts of real-time data. >>>>>> >>>>>> [JH] “LiDAR systems” is better. >>>>>> >>>>>> ) Might it be helpful to the reader to clarify the slash in cases like the >>> following (i.e., does it stand for "and", "or", or "and/or"?)? Note: this appears >>> in several places, the following is just an example. >>>>>> >>>>>> Original: >>>>>> The IoT gateway plays a common role in providing access to a >>>>>> heterogeneous set of IoT devices/sensors,... >>>>>> >>>>>> Perhaps: >>>>>> The IoT gateway plays a common role in providing access to a >>>>>> heterogeneous set of IoT devices and sensors,… >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> 6) <!--[rfced] Should "device" be updated to "devise" or is there >>>>>>>> another way to rephrase this sentence? >>>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>>> Conversely, a cloud back-end might want to device data even if it is >>>>>>>> currently asleep. >>>>>>>> Perhaps: >>>>>>>> Conversely, a cloud backend might want to access device data even if >>>>>>>> the device is currently asleep. >>>>>>>> --> >>>>>>> Good catch – we meant the second variant. >>>>>> >>>>>> ) Please clarify, should the sentence be updated to use “devise” or should >>> it be updated to the Perhaps text? >>>>>> >>>>>> [JH] Please update it to the Perhaps text. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> 20) <!--[rfced] Throughout the document, there were certain places >>>>>>>> we may have expected a citation. Please review cases like the >>>>>>>> following (there may be more, just examples): >>>>>>>> As the number of people working on farming has been decreasing over >>>>>>>> time,... >>>>>>>> *Smart Construction* >>>>>>>> Safety is critical at construction sites. Every year, many >>>>>>>> construction workers lose their lives because of falls, collisions, >>>>>>>> electric shocks, and other accidents. >>>>>>>> Policy makers have begun to provide frameworks that limit the usage >>>>>>>> of personal data and impose strict requirements on data controllers >>>>>>>> and processors. >>>>>>>> --> >>>>>>> Good point – I suggest that we (authors) go through the document and >>> add references to such statements. >>>>>> >>>>>> ) Please note that we still await word regarding where citations should be >>> added. >>>>>> >>>>>> [JH] I have added 8 citations as follows: >>>>>> >>>>>> *Smart Factory* >>>>>> The use of edge computing in a smart factory [Jamilu] can reduce the >>>>>> cost of network and storage resources by reducing the communication >>>>>> load to the central data center or server. >>>>>> >>>>>> [Jamilu] Argungu, J., Idina, M., Chalawa, U., Ummar, M., Bello, S., Arzika, I., >>> and Mala, B., >>>>>> "A Survey of Edge Computing Approaches in Smart Factory", International >>> Journal of Advanced >>>>>> Research in Computer and Communication Engineering, Vol. 12, Issue >>> 9, September 2023. >>>>>> >>>>>> *Smart Grid* >>>>>> In future smart city scenarios, the Smart Grid will be critical in >>>>>> ensuring highly available/efficient energy control in city-wide >>>>>> electricity management [Mehmood]. >>>>>> >>>>>> [Mehmood] Mehmood, M., Oad, A., Abrar, M., Munir, H., Hasan, S., >>> Muqeet, H., and Golilarz, N., >>>>>> "Edge computing for IoT-enabled smart grid", Security and >>> Communication Networks, Vol. 2021, >>>>>> Article ID 5524025, https://doi.org/10.1155/2021/5524025. >>>>>> >>>>>> *Smart Agriculture* >>>>>> In existing farms, simple systems such as management according to >>>>>> temperature and humidity can be easily and inexpensively implemented >>>>>> using IoT technology [Tanveer]. >>>>>> >>>>>> As the number of people working on farming has been decreasing over >>>>>> time, increasing automation enabled by edge computing can be a driving >>>>>> force for future smart agriculture [OGrady]. >>>>>> >>>>>> [Tanveer] Tanveer, S., Sree, N., Bhavana, B., and Varsha, D., "Smart >>> Agriculture System using IoT", >>>>>> 2022 IEEE World Conference on Applied Intelligence and Computing >>> (AIC), Sonbhadra, India, 2022, >>>>>> pp. 482-486, doi: 10.1109/AIC55036.2022.9848948. >>>>>> >>>>>> [OGrady] O'Grady, M., Langton, D., and O'Hare, G., "Edge computing: A >>> tractable model for smart agriculture?", >>>>>> Artificial Intelligence in Agriculture, Vol. 3, September 2019, Pages >>> 42-51, https://doi.org/10.1016/j.aiia.2019.12.001. >>>>>> >>>>>> *Smart Construction* >>>>>> Safety is critical at construction sites. Every year, many >>>>>> construction workers lose their lives because of falls, collisions, >>>>>> electric shocks, and other accidents [BigRentz]. >>>>>> >>>>>> Using edge computing[Yue], data generated at the construction site can >>>>>> be processed and analyzed on an edge server located within or near the >>>>>> site. >>>>>> >>>>>> [BigRentz] BigRentz, "41 Construction Safety Statistics for 2024", >>> https://www.bigrentz.com/blog/construction-safety-statistics. >>>>>> >>>>>> [Yue] Yue, Q.,Mu, S., Zhang, L., Wang, Z., Zhang, Z., Zhang, X., Wang, Y., >>> and Miao, Z., >>>>>> "Assisting Smart Construction With Reliable Edge Computing >>> Technology", Frontiers in Energy Research, Sec. Smart Grids, >>>>>> Vol. 10, 2022, https://doi.org/10.3389/fenrg.2022.900298. >>>>>> >>>>>> *Self-Driving Car* >>>>>> Edge computing plays a crucial role in safety-focused self-driving car >>> systems [Badjie]. >>>>>> >>>>>> [Badjie] The Future of Autonomous Driving Systems with Edge Computing, >>>>>> https://medium.com/@bakarykumba1996/the-future-of- >>> autonomous-driving-systems-with-edge-computing-8c919597c4ee. >>>>>> >>>>>> *Digital Twin* >>>>>> Decision makers can use digital twins to test and validate different >>>>>> strategies, identify inefficiencies, and optimize Performance [CertMagic]. >>>>>> >>>>>> [CertMagic] CertMagic, "Digital Twin Technology: Simulating Real-World >>> Scenarios for Enhanced Decision Making", >>>>>> https://certmagic.medium.com/digital-twin-technology- >>> simulating-real-world-scenarios-for-enhanced-decision-making-8844c51e856d. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> The files have been posted here (please refresh): >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.txt >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.pdf >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.html >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556.xml >>>>>> >>>>>> The relevant diff files are posted here: >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556-diff.html (comprehensive >>>>>> diff) https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556-auth48diff.html (all >>>>>> AUTH48 changes) >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556-lastdiff.html (htmlwdiff >>>>>> diff between last version and this) >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9556-lastrfcdiff.html (rfcdiff >>>>>> between last version and this) >>>>>> >>>>>> For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see: >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9556 >>>>>> >>>>>> We will await approvals from each party listed on the AUTH48 status page >>> below prior to moving this document forward in the publication process. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>> RFC Editor/ap >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2024, at 7:51 AM, Ari Keränen <ari.keranen@ericsson.com> >>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> One small thing that I noticed while reading the diff (sending to retracted >>> audience since it’s really nitty). The text in sec 2.4 “Self-driving car”says : >>>>>>> such as high-resolution cameras, radars, Light Detection and >>>>>>> Ranging (LiDAR), sonar sensors, and GPS systems Since we say “radars” >>> should we also say “LiDARs” or change “radars” to “radar”? >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Ari >>>>>>> From: irsg <irsg-bounces@irtf.org> on behalf of Ari Keränen >>>>>>> <ari.keranen=40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org> >>>>>>> Date: Friday, 22. March 2024 at 16.35 >>>>>>> To: Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com>, Xavier De Foy >>>>>>> <Xavier.DeFoy=40InterDigital.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, Kutscher, Dirk >>>>>>> <ietf@dkutscher.net>, yonggeun.hong@gmail.com >>>>>>> <yonggeun.hong@gmail.com> >>>>>>> Cc: auth48archive@rfc-editor.org <auth48archive@rfc-editor.org>, >>>>>>> jhong@etri.re.kr <jhong@etri.re.kr>, irsg@irtf.org <irsg@irtf.org>, >>>>>>> ietf@kovatsch.net <ietf@kovatsch.net>, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org >>>>>>> <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [irsg] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9556 >>>>>>> <draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge-10> for your review Hi Authors & Alanna, >>>>>>> I believe the “DDS” acronym should be actually “Data Distribution >>> Service” instead of “Discovery Domain Set”. >>>>>>> Otherwise the updates as discussed below look good to me. >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Ari (as the doc shepherd) >>>>>>> From: Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com> >>>>>>> Date: Thursday, 21. March 2024 at 20.49 >>>>>>> To: Xavier De Foy <Xavier.DeFoy=40InterDigital.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, >>>>>>> Kutscher, Dirk <ietf@dkutscher.net>, yonggeun.hong@gmail.com >>>>>>> <yonggeun.hong@gmail.com> >>>>>>> Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>, >>>>>>> jhong@etri.re.kr <jhong@etri.re.kr>, ietf@kovatsch.net >>>>>>> <ietf@kovatsch.net>, eve.schooler@gmail.com >>> <eve.schooler@gmail.com>, >>>>>>> irsg@irtf.org <irsg@irtf.org>, Ari Keränen >>>>>>> <ari.keranen@ericsson.com>, auth48archive@rfc-editor.org >>>>>>> <auth48archive@rfc-editor.org> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9556 <draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge-10> >>>>>>> for your review Authors, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you for your replies. We have updated the files as requested. See >>> below for additional questions and comments. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ) Yong-Geun - In RFC 9453, your name appears as "Y-G.” in the header, >>> and in this document, it appears as "Y.-G.” May we update this document to >>> remove the period after “Y” to reflect RFC 9453? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ) Might it be helpful to the reader to clarify the slash in cases like the >>> following (i.e., does it stand for "and", "or", or "and/or"?)? Note: this appears >>> in several places, the following is just an example. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>> The IoT gateway plays a common role in providing access to a >>>>>>> heterogeneous set of IoT devices/sensors,... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Perhaps: >>>>>>> The IoT gateway plays a common role in providing access to a >>>>>>> heterogeneous set of IoT devices and sensors,… >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 6) <!--[rfced] Should "device" be updated to "devise" or is there >>>>>>>>> another way to rephrase this sentence? >>>>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>>>> Conversely, a cloud back-end might want to device data even if it >>>>>>>>> is currently asleep. >>>>>>>>> Perhaps: >>>>>>>>> Conversely, a cloud backend might want to access device data even >>>>>>>>> if the device is currently asleep. >>>>>>>>> --> >>>>>>>> Good catch – we meant the second variant. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ) Please clarify, should the sentence be updated to use “devise” or should >>> it be updated to the Perhaps text? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 9) <!--[rfced] The SVG figures in Section 4.2 have their width and >>>>>>>>> height specified, which will make the artwork not scale. Please >>>>>>>>> consider whether scaling should be enabled. Scaling will allow the >>>>>>>>> figure to be resized when it is viewed on a mobile device; however, >>>>>>>>> there may be aesthetic trade-offs (e.g., image may appear too large >>>>>>>>> on a desktop screen or different figures may scale differently >>>>>>>>> based on their relative sizes). Please review the HTML and PDF >>>>>>>>> outputs and let us know how to proceed. >>>>>>>>> --> >>>>>>>> The figure should probably be scaled so that the font size in the figure >>> corresponds to the one in the text and so that the figure is not wider than the >>> text width. What is a good way to achieve this in a portable fashion? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ) We have removed the width and height attributes from both SVG >>> figures in order for them to scale. Please see the HTML and PDF outputs. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 20) <!--[rfced] Throughout the document, there were certain places >>>>>>>>> we may have expected a citation. Please review cases like the >>>>>>>>> following (there may be more, just examples): >>>>>>>>> As the number of people working on farming has been decreasing over >>>>>>>>> time,... >>>>>>>>> *Smart Construction* >>>>>>>>> Safety is critical at construction sites. 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Note that we do not make changes once a document is >>> published as an RFC. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We will await approvals from each party listed on the AUTH48 status >>> page below prior to moving this document forward in the publication process. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www/. >>>>>>> rfc- >>> editor.org%2Fauth48%2Frfc9556&data=05%7C02%7Cari.keranen%40ericss >>>>>>> o >>>>>>> >>> n.com%7Ce84ce8fc30894c03e9f908dc49d78462%7C92e84cebfbfd47abbe5208 >>> 0c6b >>>>>>> 8 >>>>>>> >>> 7953f%7C0%7C0%7C638466437584505133%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8 >>> eyJWIjoiMC >>>>>>> 4 >>>>>>> >>> wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7 >>> C%7C& >>>>>>> s >>>>>>> >>> data=kzFEwCnqIAUny0o13ijF5OqnFQ9N99%2F%2Fz4YshWSMh1s%3D&reserve >>> d=0 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>>> RFC Editor/ap >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2024, at 4:13 PM, Xavier De Foy >>> <Xavier.DeFoy=40InterDigital.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> Thank you very much for the review and updates. I generally agree with >>> Dirks replies and added a few minor comments with the marker [xdf] below. I >>> believe at this stage there are a couple of open items (one about the figure, >>> and one about possibly adding references). About the figures, I don’t have a >>> strong opinion (the current figures, which I guess are still not scaled, look fine >>> to me on PC and phone, and I don’t know how to test with scaling). For the >>> second point I’ll check with the editor of the use case section. >>>>>>>> Best Regards, >>>>>>>> Xavier. >>>>>>>> From: Dirk Kutscher <ietf@dkutscher.net> >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2024 10:43 AM >>>>>>>> To: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org >>>>>>>> Cc: jhong@etri.re.kr; yonggeun.hong@gmail.com; Xavier De Foy >>>>>>>> <Xavier.DeFoy@InterDigital.com>; ietf@kovatsch.net; >>>>>>>> eve.schooler@gmail.com; irsg@irtf.org; ari.keranen@ericsson.com; >>>>>>>> auth48archive@rfc-editor.org >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9556 <draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge-10> >>>>>>>> for your review Hello, many thanks for the careful review and the >>>>>>>> questions. >>>>>>>> Some answers inline: >>>>>>>> 1) <!-- [rfced] Please note that the title of the document has been >>>>>>>> updated as follows. Abbreviations have been expanded per Section >>>>>>>> 3.6 of RFC 7322 ("RFC Style Guide"). Please review. >>>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>>> IoT Edge Challenges and Functions >>>>>>>> Current: >>>>>>>> Internet of Things (IoT) Edge Challenges and Functions >>>>>>>> --> >>>>>>>> ACK >>>>>>>> 2) <!--[rfced] Dirk and Matthias: Is there a "short name" we could >>>>>>>> use for your organizations in the header?--> For Dirk: HKUST(GZ) >>>>>>>> 3) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that appear >>>>>>>> in the title) for use on https://www.rfc-editor.org/search. --> >>>>>>>> • >>>>>>>> in-network computing >>>>>>>> • in network caching >>>>>>>> • in network storage >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 4) <!--[rfced] To help with longevity, we have updated uses of >>>>>>>> "currently", "today" and the like to say "at the time of writing". >>>>>>>> Please let us know any objections.--> ACK >>>>>>>> 5) <!--[rfced] Is the meaning of this sentence that IoT technology >>>>>>>> is being applied in more types of domains? Or that the applications >>>>>>>> listed are more demanding than other domains? (That is, is the >>>>>>>> healthcare domain itself more demanding or is there some application >>>>>>>> inside the healthcare domain that is more demanding?) >>>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>>> IoT technology is used with increasingly demanding applications, for >>>>>>>> example, in industrial, automotive and healthcare domains, leading >>>>>>>> to new challenges. >>>>>>>> Perhpas A: >>>>>>>> IoT technology is used with increasingly demanding applications in >>>>>>>> domains such as industrial, automotive, and healthcare, which leads >>>>>>>> to new challenges. >>>>>>>> Perhaps B: >>>>>>>> IoT technology is used with increasingly demanding applications, for >>>>>>>> example, the industrial, automotive, and healthcare domains, leading >>>>>>>> to new challenges. >>>>>>>> --> >>>>>>>> Variant A sounds good. >>>>>>>> 6) <!--[rfced] Should "device" be updated to "devise" or is there >>>>>>>> another way to rephrase this sentence? >>>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>>> Conversely, a cloud back-end might want to device data even if it is >>>>>>>> currently asleep. >>>>>>>> Perhaps: >>>>>>>> Conversely, a cloud backend might want to access device data even if >>>>>>>> the device is currently asleep. >>>>>>>> --> >>>>>>>> Good catch – we meant the second variant. >>>>>>>> 7) <!--[rfced] The following three sentences use "typically". We >>>>>>>> will update to use another word to reduce redundancy unless we hear >>>>>>>> objection. >>>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>>> The service and application life-cycle is typically using an >>>>>>>> NFV-like management and orchestration model. >>>>>>>> The platform typically enables advertising or consuming services >>>>>>>> hosted on the platform (e.g., the Mp1 interface in ETSI MEC supports >>>>>>>> service discovery and communication), and enables communication with >>>>>>>> local and remote endpoints (e.g., message routing function in IoT >>>>>>>> gateways). The platform is typically extensible to edge applications >>>>>>>> because it can advertise a service that other edge applications can >>>>>>>> consume. >>>>>>>> Perhaps: >>>>>>>> Typically, the service and application life cycle is using an >>>>>>>> NFV-like management and orchestration model. >>>>>>>> The platform generally enables advertising or consuming services >>>>>>>> hosted on the platform (e.g., the Mp1 interface in ETSI MEC supports >>>>>>>> service discovery and communication), and enables communication with >>>>>>>> local and remote endpoints (e.g., message routing function in IoT >>>>>>>> gateways). The platform is usually extensible to edge applications >>>>>>>> because it can advertise a service that other edge applications can >>>>>>>> consume. >>>>>>>> --> >>>>>>>> Yes, thank you. >>>>>>>> 8) <!--[rfced] Please review the following questions related to this text: >>>>>>>> a) We are having trouble parsing "the list associated logical >>>>>>>> functions". Is "list" intended to be a noun or a verb? >>>>>>>> b) The placement of "in this section" is somewhat jarring (and makes >>>>>>>> two introductory phrases in the sentence). May we update as follows? >>>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>>> Although there are many approaches to edge computing, in this >>>>>>>> section, we attempt to lay out a general model and the list >>>>>>>> associated logical functions. >>>>>>>> Perhaps A (list is a noun): >>>>>>>> Although there are many approaches to edge computing, this section >>>>>>>> lays out an attempt at a general model and the list of associated >>>>>>>> logical functions. >>>>>>>> Perhaps B (list is a verb): >>>>>>>> Although there are many approaches to edge computing, this sections >>>>>>>> lays out an attempt at a general model and lists associated logical >>>>>>>> functions. >>>>>>>> --> >>>>>>>> Variant B sounds good. >>>>>>>> 9) <!--[rfced] The SVG figures in Section 4.2 have their width and >>>>>>>> height specified, which will make the artwork not scale. Please >>>>>>>> consider whether scaling should be enabled. Scaling will allow the >>>>>>>> figure to be resized when it is viewed on a mobile device; however, >>>>>>>> there may be aesthetic trade-offs (e.g., image may appear too large >>>>>>>> on a desktop screen or different figures may scale differently based >>>>>>>> on their relative sizes). Please review the HTML and PDF outputs and >>>>>>>> let us know how to proceed. >>>>>>>> --> >>>>>>>> The figure should probably be scaled so that the font size in the figure >>> corresponds to the one in the text and so that the figure is not wider than the >>> text width. What is a good way to achieve this in a portable fashion? >>>>>>>> [xdf] I don’t have a strong opinion on this, but after checking the pdf >>> and html links you provide at the end of this email, on a laptop and on a phone, >>> the 2 figures look fine as they are right now. >>>>>>>> 10) <!--[rfced] In the following text, how does the last clause >>>>>>>> relate to the rest of the sentence? If our suggested rephrase does >>>>>>>> not correctly capture your intent, please let us know how to >>>>>>>> rephrase. >>>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>>> In a distributed image processing application, some image processing >>>>>>>> functions can be similarly executed at the edge or in the cloud, >>>>>>>> while preprocessing, which helps limiting the amount of uploaded >>>>>>>> data, is performed by the IoT device. >>>>>>>> Perhaps: >>>>>>>> Similarly, in a distributed image processing application, some image >>>>>>>> processing functions can be executed at the edge or in the cloud, >>>>>>>> which helps with limiting the amount of uploaded data to be >>>>>>>> performed by the IoT device. >>>>>>>> --> >>>>>>>> How about this: >>>>>>>> Similarly, in a distributed image processing application, some image >>>>>>>> processing functions can be executed at the edge or in the cloud. To >>> limit the amount of data to be uploaded to central cloud functions, IoT edge >>> devices may pre-process data. >>>>>>>> 11) <!--[rfced] Should "IRTF attendees" be further clarified? Is >>>>>>>> this a particular meeting? Participants of all Research Groups?--> I >>>>>>>> suggest "participants of T2TRG meetings". >>>>>>>> 12) <!--[rfced] To avoid the awkward readability of both "used" and >>>>>>>> "using" in the same sentence, may we make the following update? >>>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>>> Broker-based solutions can be used, for example, using an IoT >>>>>>>> gateway as a broker to discover IoT resources. >>>>>>>> Perhaps: >>>>>>>> Broker-based solutions can be implemented; an example would be using >>>>>>>> an IoT gateway as a broker to discover IoT resources. >>>>>>>> --> >>>>>>>> How about: >>>>>>>> "In a broker-based system, an IoT gateway can act as a broker to >>> discover IoT resources." >>>>>>>> 13) <!--[rfced] Please review our update to "in replacement or >>> complement" >>>>>>>> and let us know if it does not capture your intended meaning. >>>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>>> More decentralized solutions can also be used in replacement or >>>>>>>> complement, for example, CoAP enables multicast discovery of an IoT >>>>>>>> device, and CoAP service discovery enables obtaining a list of >>>>>>>> resources made available by this device [RFC7252]. >>>>>>>> Current: >>>>>>>> More decentralized solutions can also be used in replacement of or >>>>>>>> in complement to the broker-based solutions; for example, CoAP >>>>>>>> enables multicast discovery of an IoT device and CoAP service >>>>>>>> discovery enables one to obtain a list of resources made available >>>>>>>> by this device [RFC7252]. >>>>>>>> --> >>>>>>>> Yes, much better. >>>>>>>> 14) <!--[rfced] Please review our update to the following text to >>>>>>>> ensure we've correctly captured your intended meaning. Because this >>>>>>>> text includes an example within an example and both are within a >>>>>>>> list, please review carefully. >>>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>>> * Adapting cloud management platforms to the edge, to account for >>>>>>>> its distributed nature, e.g., using Conflict-free Replicated Data >>>>>>>> Types (CRDT) [Jeffery], heterogeneity and customization, e.g., using >>>>>>>> intent-based management mechanisms [Cao], and limited resources. >>>>>>>> Current: >>>>>>>> * Adapting cloud management platforms to the edge to account for its >>>>>>>> distributed nature, e.g., using Conflict-free Replicated Data Types >>>>>>>> (CRDTs) [Jeffery], heterogeneity and customization (e.g., using >>>>>>>> intent-based management mechanisms [Cao]), and limited resources >>>>>>>> --> >>>>>>>> Thanks for spotting this. This sentence seems problematic for a couple >>> of reasons. The examples are quite specific. If co-authors and our shepherd >>> agree, we could simplify as follows: >>>>>>>> Adapting cloud management platforms to the edge to account for its >>> distributed nature, heterogeneity, need for customization, and limited >>> resources. >>>>>>>> [xdf] sounds good to me. I would propose keeping the references, by >>> adding a sentence after the one proposed by Dirk. Something like this (if co- >>> authors and shepherd agree): >>>>>>>> OLD: >>>>>>>> * Adapting cloud management platforms to the edge, to account for >>>>>>>> its distributed nature, e.g., using Conflict-free Replicated Data >>>>>>>> Types (CRDT) [Jeffery], heterogeneity and customization, e.g., using >>>>>>>> intent-based management mechanisms [Cao], and limited resources. >>>>>>>> NEW: >>>>>>>> * Adapting cloud management platforms to the edge to account for its >>> distributed nature, heterogeneity, need for customization, and limited >>> resources. For example, using Conflict-free Replicated Data Types (CRDTs) >>> [Jeffery] or intent-based management mechanisms [Cao]. >>>>>>>> 15) <!--[rfced] How can we break this run-on sentence up for the >>> reader? >>>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>>> * (Computation placement) Selecting, in a centralized or >>>>>>>> distributed/peer-to-peer manner, an appropriate compute device based >>>>>>>> on available resources, location of data input and data sinks, >>>>>>>> compute node properties, etc., and with varying goals including >>>>>>>> end-to-end latency, privacy, high availability, energy conservation, >>>>>>>> or network efficiency, for example, using load- balancing techniques >>>>>>>> to avoid congestion. >>>>>>>> Perhaps: >>>>>>>> * Computation placement: in a centralized or >>>>>>>> distributed/peer-to-peer manner, selecting an appropriate compute >>>>>>>> device. The selection is based on available resources, location of >>>>>>>> data input and data sinks, compute node properties, etc. with >>>>>>>> varying goals. These goals include end-to-end latency, privacy, high >>>>>>>> availability, energy conservation, or network efficiency. For >>>>>>>> example, using load-balancing techniques to avoid congestion. >>>>>>>> --> >>>>>>>> Yes, much better – thanks! >>>>>>>> 16) <!--[rfced] We are having difficulty parsing the parenthetical. >>>>>>>> Please review and let us know how it may be updated for clarity. >>>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>>> * Maintaining consistency, freshness, reliability, and privacy of >>>>>>>> stored/cached data in systems that are distributed, constrained, and >>>>>>>> dynamic (e.g., owing to end devices and computing nodes churn or >>>>>>>> mobility), and which can have additional data governance constraints >>>>>>>> on data storage location. >>>>>>>> --> >>>>>>>> I suggest the following: >>>>>>>> • Maintaining consistency, freshness, reliability, and privacy of >>>>>>>> stored/cached data in systems that are distributed, constrained, and >>> dynamic (e.g., due to node mobility, energy-saving regimes, and disruptions) >>> and which can have additional data governance constraints on data storage >>> location. >>>>>>>> 17) <!--[rfced] Is the following sentence intended to be a list of >>>>>>>> characteristics of communication brokering? If so, may we update it >>>>>>>> as follows? >>>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>>> Communication brokering is a typical function of IoT edge computing >>>>>>>> that facilitates communication with IoT devices, enabling clients to >>>>>>>> register as recipients for data from devices, as well as forwarding/ >>>>>>>> routing of traffic to or from IoT devices, enabling various data >>>>>>>> discovery and redistribution patterns, for example, north-south with >>>>>>>> clouds, east-west with other edge devices >>>>>>>> [I-D.mcbride-edge-data-discovery-overview]. >>>>>>>> Perhaps: >>>>>>>> Communication brokering is a typical function of IoT edge computing >>>>>>>> that facilitates communication with IoT devices, enables clients to >>>>>>>> register as recipients for data from devices forwards/routes of >>>>>>>> traffic to or from IoT devices, enables various data discovery and >>>>>>>> redistribution patterns (for example, north-south with clouds and >>>>>>>> east-west with other edge devices >>>>>>>> [I-D.mcbride-edge-data-discovery-overview]. >>>>>>>> --> >>>>>>>> Thanks, much better. Some additional edits: >>>>>>>> Communication brokering is a typical function of IoT edge computing >>>>>>>> that facilitates communication with IoT devices, enables clients to >>>>>>>> register as recipients for data from devices, forwards traffic to or >>>>>>>> from IoT devices, enables various data discovery and redistribution >>>>>>>> patterns (for example, north-south with clouds and east-west with >>>>>>>> other edge devices [I-D.mcbride-edge-data-discovery-overview]. >>>>>>>> [xdf] minor typo: need to close the parenthesis at the end of the >>> paragraph. >>>>>>>> 18) <!--[rfced] It's unclear how "dynamic" fits into the sentence below. >>>>>>>> Is it meant to read "dynamic environtments"? >>>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>>> * Addressing concerns such as limited resources, privacy, dynamic, >>>>>>>> and heterogeneous environments to deploy machine learning at the >>>>>>>> edge: >>>>>>>> Perhaps: >>>>>>>> * Addressing concerns such as limited resources, privacy, and >>>>>>>> dynamic and heterogeneous environments to deploy machine learning >>> at >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> edge: >>>>>>>> --> >>>>>>>> Yes. >>>>>>>> 19) <!-- [rfced] Please ensure that the guidelines listed in Section >>>>>>>> 2.1 of RFC 5743 have been adhered to in this document. --> IMO, >>> "Status of This Memo" has all the required information. >>>>>>>> 20) <!--[rfced] Throughout the document, there were certain places >>>>>>>> we may have expected a citation. Please review cases like the >>>>>>>> following (there may be more, just examples): >>>>>>>> As the number of people working on farming has been decreasing over >>>>>>>> time,... >>>>>>>> *Smart Construction* >>>>>>>> Safety is critical at construction sites. Every year, many >>>>>>>> construction workers lose their lives because of falls, collisions, >>>>>>>> electric shocks, and other accidents. >>>>>>>> Policy makers have begun to provide frameworks that limit the usage >>>>>>>> of personal data and impose strict requirements on data controllers >>>>>>>> and processors. >>>>>>>> --> >>>>>>>> Good point – I suggest that we (authors) go through the document and >>> add references to such statements. >>>>>>>> 21) <!-- [rfced] Throughout the text, the following terminology >>>>>>>> appears to be used inconsistently. Please review these occurrences >>>>>>>> and let us know if/how they may be made consistent. >>>>>>>> a) Capitalization >>>>>>>> Big Data vs. big data >>>>>>>> Cloud vs. cloud >>>>>>>> Industrial IoT vs. industrial IoT >>>>>>>> Smart Grid vs. smart grid >>>>>>>> Thing vs. thing >>>>>>>> Edge vs. edge >>>>>>>> I'm in favor of using lowercase for all terms except for "Thing". >>>>>>>> b) hyphenation >>>>>>>> edge computing vs. edge-computing (when in attributive position >>>>>>>> (before a noun)) >>>>>>>> --> >>>>>>>> How about just using "edge computing"? >>>>>>>> 22) <!-- [rfced] FYI - We have added expansions for the following >>>>>>>> abbreviations per Section 3.6 of RFC 7322 ("RFC Style Guide"). >>>>>>>> Please review each expansion in the document carefully to ensure >>>>>>>> correctness. >>>>>>>> Content Delivery Network (CDN) >>>>>>>> Constrained Application Protocol (CoAP) Discovery Domain Set (DDS) >>>>>>>> Information-Centric Networking (ICN) Light Detection and Ranging >>>>>>>> (LiDAR) Multi-access Edge Computing (MEC) Message Queuing >>> Telemetry >>>>>>>> Transport (MQTT) Open Platform Communications Unified Architecture >>>>>>>> (OPC UA) Software-Defined Networking (SDN) Virtual Machine (VM) >>>>>>>> --> >>>>>>>> Looks good. >>>>>>>> 23) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of >>>>>>>> the online Style Guide <https://w/ >>>>>>>> ww.rfc- >>> editor.org%2Fstyleguide%2Fpart2%2F%23inclusive_language&data= >>>>>>>> >>> 05%7C02%7Cari.keranen%40ericsson.com%7Ce84ce8fc30894c03e9f908dc49d >>> 78 >>>>>>>> >>> 462%7C92e84cebfbfd47abbe52080c6b87953f%7C0%7C0%7C6384664375845 >>> 14144% >>>>>>>> >>> 7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJB >>> TiI6 >>>>>>>> >>> Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=VnIvjPVfSj92XST0UrVrZ >>> 1%2FJ >>>>>>>> jSaC864NLBEU00gSYYI%3D&reserved=0> >>>>>>>> and let us know if any changes are needed. 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