Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9270 <draft-ietf-teas-gmpls-signaling-smp-12> for your review

Lynne Bartholomew <lbartholomew@amsl.com> Mon, 08 August 2022 16:03 UTC

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Dear Jia and Bin,

We have noted your approvals on the AUTH48 status page:

   https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9270

Thank you very much!

RFC Editor/lb


> From: <byyun@etri.re.kr>
> Subject: RE: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9270 <draft-ietf-teas-gmpls-signaling-smp-12> for your review
> Date: August 8, 2022 at 5:35:32 AM PDT
> To: "'Lynne Bartholomew'" <lbartholomew@amsl.com>, <hejia@huawei.com>, <italo.busi@huawei.com>, <peter.park@kt.com>
> Cc: "'John Scudder'" <jgs@juniper.net>, "'Jeong-dong Ryoo'" <ryoo@etri.re.kr>, <teas-ads@ietf.org>, "'RFC System'" <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>, <teas-chairs@ietf.org>, "'Vishnu Pavan Beeram'" <vbeeram@juniper.net>, <auth48archive@rfc-editor.org>
> 
> Dear Lynne,
> 
> I approve the document for publication in its current form.
> Thanks for your hard work.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Bin

> On Aug 8, 2022, at 5:31 AM, Hejia (Jia) <hejia@huawei.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> I think the document is ready for publication in its current form. Thanks a lot for your hard work.
> 
> B.R.
> Jia
> 发件人:Lynne Bartholomew <lbartholomew@amsl.com>
> 收件人:Hejia (Jia) <hejia@huawei.com>;Italo Busi <Italo.Busi@huawei.com>;윤빈영 <byyun@etri.re.kr>;peter.park <peter.park@kt.com>
> 抄 送:John Scudder <jgs@juniper.net>;Jeong-dong Ryoo <ryoo@etri.re.kr>;teas-ads <teas-ads@ietf.org>;RFC System <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>;TEAS WG Chairs <teas-chairs@ietf.org>;Vishnu Pavan Beeram <vbeeram@juniper.net>;auth48archive <auth48archive@rfc-editor.org>
> 时 间:2022-08-06 03:05:53
> 主 题:Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9270 for your review
> 
> Dear Jia, Italo, Bin, and Peter,
> 
> We do not believe that we have heard from you regarding this document's readiness for publication.
> 
> Please review the updated files, and let us know whether further changes are needed or you approve the document for publication in its current form.
> 
> The latest files are posted here:
> 
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9270.txt
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9270.pdf
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9270.html
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9270.xml
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9270-diff.html
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9270-alt-diff.html
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9270-rfcdiff.html
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9270-auth48diff.html
> 
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9270-xmldiff1.html
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9270-xmldiff2.html
> 
> The AUTH48 status page is here:
> 
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9270
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> RFC Editor/lb
> 
> > On Jul 22, 2022, at 2:17 PM, Lynne Bartholomew <lbartholomew@amsl.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi, John.  We have noted your approval:
> > 
> >   https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9270
> > 
> > Thank you!
> > 
> > RFC Editor/lb
> > 
> >> On Jul 21, 2022, at 8:29 AM, John Scudder <jgs@juniper.net> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Hi Lynne,
> >> 
> >>> On Jul 15, 2022, at 8:13 PM, Lynne Bartholomew <lbartholomew@amsl.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Dear Jeong-dong and *AD (John),
> >>> 
> >>> * John, per our process, we will need your approval for the removal of "MUST" in Section 4, Paragraph 2 (just after Figure 1).
> >> 
> >> Yes, this change is fine, thanks for checking.
> >> 
> >> —John
> > 
> 
> > From: Lynne Bartholomew <lbartholomew@amsl.com>
> > Subject: Re: *[AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9270 <draft-ietf-teas-gmpls-signaling-smp-12> for your review
> > Date: July 19, 2022 at 12:55:55 PM PDT
> > To: Jeong-dong Ryoo <ryoo@etri.re.kr>
> > Cc: teas-ads@ietf.org, John Scudder <jgs@juniper.net>, hejia@huawei.com, italo.busi@huawei.com, 윤빈영 <byyun@etri.re.kr>, peter.park@kt.com, RFC System <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>, teas-chairs@ietf.org, Vishnu Pavan Beeram <vbeeram@juniper.net>, auth48archive@rfc-editor.org
> > 
> > Dear Jeong-dong,
> > 
> > We have noted your approval on the AUTH48 status page:
> > 
> >   https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9270
> > 
> > Thank you very much!
> > 
> > RFC Editor/lb
> > 
> >> On Jul 18, 2022, at 6:09 PM, Jeong-dong Ryoo <ryoo@etri.re.kr> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Dear Lynne,
> >> 
> >> Thank you for the updates. They are all good to me. I hope the outstanding issue related to the removal of "MUST" will be finalized according to the response from our AD, John. 
> >> 
> >> Thanks again.
> >> 
> >> Best regards,
> >> 
> >> Jeong-dong
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From:  "Lynne Bartholomew" <lbartholomew@amsl.com>
> >> To:     "Jeong-dong Ryoo" <ryoo@etri.re.kr>;   <teas-ads@ietf.org>;  "John Scudder" <jgs@juniper.net>; 
> >> Cc:      <hejia@huawei.com>;   <italo.busi@huawei.com>;  "윤빈영" <byyun@etri.re.kr>;   <peter.park@kt.com>;  "RFC System" <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>;   <teas-chairs@ietf.org>;  "Vishnu Pavan Beeram" <vbeeram@juniper.net>;   <auth48archive@rfc-editor.org>; 
> >> Sent:  2022-07-16 (토) 09:14:14 (UTC+09:00)
> >> Subject: *[AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9270 <draft-ietf-teas-gmpls-signaling-smp-12> for your review
> >> 
> >> Dear Jeong-dong and *AD (John),
> >> 
> >> * John, per our process, we will need your approval for the removal of "MUST" in Section 4, Paragraph 2 (just after Figure 1).
> >> 
> >> Jeong-dong, thank you for your prompt reply!  We have updated this document per your notes below.
> >> 
> >> The latest files are posted here:
> >> 
> >>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9270.txt
> >>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9270.pdf
> >>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9270.html
> >>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9270.xml
> >>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9270-diff.html
> >>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9270-rfcdiff.html
> >>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9270-auth48diff.html
> >> 
> >>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9270-alt-diff.html
> >>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9270-xmldiff1.html
> >>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9270-xmldiff2.html
> >> 
> >> Thanks again for your quick reply and help!
> >> 
> >> RFC Editor/lb
> >> 
> >>> On Jul 14, 2022, at 7:00 PM, Jeong-dong Ryoo <ryoo@etri.re.kr> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Dear RFC Editor,
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Thank you for your email. 
> >>> 
> >>> Please, see my answers to your questions as follows:
> >>> 
> >>> 1) Thank you for the improvements you've done. I am ok with the changes.
> >>> 
> >>> 2) As you pointed out, I couldn't find the "MUST" as related to RFC 3209, either. I suggest the following change (removing MUST):
> >>> 
> >>> OLD:
> >>> Per RFC
> >>> 3209 [RFC3209], in order to achieve resource sharing during the
> >>> signaling of these protecting LSPs, they MUST have the same Tunnel
> >>> Endpoint Address (as part of their SESSION object). 
> >>> 
> >>> NEW:
> >>> Per RFC
> >>> 3209 [RFC3209], in order to achieve resource sharing during the
> >>> signaling of these protecting LSPs, they have the same Tunnel
> >>> Endpoint Address (as part of their SESSION object). 
> >>> 
> >>> 3) According to the definition and usage of the <aside> element, it looks like there will be no problem putting the "Note:" in the <aside> element. But, I don't know what the resulting text looks like if the <aside> element is used. Nevertheless, I should be ok as long as the text is there.
> >>> 
> >>> 4) Thank you for taking a close look at those reference documents as well. Both  expressions are understood to be the same. I would like to keep object names consistent in this document by making them all uppercase.
> >>> 
> >>> 5) Yes, it means "preemption status". I am fine with your suggestion.
> >>> 
> >>> 6) "SMP" in the "SMP protecting LSP" is not really necessary. Since we use "protecting  LSP" throughout this document except Section 5.6, please, replace "SMP protecting LSP" with "protecting LSP" in Section 5.6.    
> >>> 
> >>> 7) Sorry for the confusion. Suggestion #1 is correct.
> >>> 
> >>> 8) Your change is good.
> >>> 
> >>> 9) I am aware of the terms related to the "inclusive language" and tried not to use them. I don't think any changes are needed. 
> >>> 
> >>> 10) No objection. Thank you for the consistency check.
> >>> 
> >>> Thank you.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Best regards,
> >>> 
> >>> Jeong-dong
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From:  "" <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>
> >>> To:      <hejia@huawei.com>;   <italo.busi@huawei.com>;   <ryoo@etri.re.kr>;   <byyun@etri.re.kr>;   <peter.park@kt.com>; 
> >>> Cc:      <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>;   <teas-ads@ietf.org>;   <teas-chairs@ietf.org>;   <vbeeram@juniper.net>;   <auth48archive@rfc-editor.org>; 
> >>> Sent:  2022-07-13 (수) 07:37:12 (UTC+09:00)
> >>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9270 <draft-ietf-teas-gmpls-signaling-smp-12> for your review
> >>> 
> >>> Authors,
> >>> 
> >>> While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as necessary) 
> >>> the following questions, which are also in the XML file.
> >>> 
> >>> 1) <!-- [rfced] Abbreviated (running) title (.pdf output) and body of
> >>> document:  Because this document and RFC 4872 state that they define
> >>> extensions (i.e., more than one extension) for GMPLS signaling, we
> >>> changed "extension" to "extensions" as noted below.  Please review,
> >>> and let us know any concerns.
> >>> 
> >>> Original:
> >>> GMPLS Extension for SMP
> >>> ...
> >>> 4.  Operation of SMP with GMPLS Signaling Extension . . . . . . .   5
> >>> 5.  GMPLS Signaling Extension for SMP . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   6
> >>> ...
> >>> RFC 4872 [RFC4872] defines extension of Resource Reservation Protocol
> >>> - Traffic Engineering (RSVP-TE) to support Shared Mesh Restoration
> >>> (SMR) mechanisms.
> >>> 
> >>> Currently:
> >>> GMPLS Extensions for SMP
> >>> ...
> >>> 4.  Operation of SMP with GMPLS Signaling Extensions
> >>> 5.  GMPLS Signaling Extensions for SMP
> >>> ...
> >>> RFC 4872 [RFC4872] defines extensions for Resource Reservation
> >>> Protocol - Traffic Engineering (RSVP-TE) to support Shared Mesh
> >>> Restoration (SMR) mechanisms. -->
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 2) <!-- [rfced] Section 4:  We could not verify the "MUST" as related to
> >>> RFC 3209.  Please verify that this text is correct and will be clear
> >>> to readers.
> >>> 
> >>> Original:
> >>> Per RFC
> >>> 3209 [RFC3209], in order to achieve resource sharing during the
> >>> signaling of these protecting LSPs, they MUST have the same Tunnel
> >>> Endpoint Address (as part of their SESSION object). -->
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 3) <!-- [rfced] Section 5.2:  Please review whether this "Note:" item
> >>> should be in the <aside> element.  <aside> is defined as "a container
> >>> for content that is semantically less important or tangential to the
> >>> content that surrounds it"
> >>> (https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/xml2rfc-doc.html#name-aside-2).
> >>> 
> >>> Original:
> >>> Note: N bit is set to indicate that the protection switching
> >>> signaling is done via data plane. -->
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 4) <!-- [rfced] Section 5.3:  We see that RFC 3473 uses "Admin_Status"
> >>> instead of "ADMIN_STATUS", while RFCs 4872 and 4873 use
> >>> "ADMIN_STATUS".  However, RFC 4873 also uses "Admin_Status".  Will
> >>> these distinctions be clear to readers?
> >>> 
> >>> Original:
> >>> The formerly working LSP MAY be signaled with the A bit set in the
> >>> ADMIN_STATUS object (see [RFC3473]). -->
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 5) <!-- [rfced] Section 5.4:  Does "preempted situation" mean
> >>> "preemption status" or something else?  If the suggested text is not
> >>> correct, please clarify.
> >>> 
> >>> Original:
> >>> Once the working LSP and the
> >>> protecting LSP are configured or pre-configured, the end node MUST
> >>> keep refreshing both working and protecting LSPs regardless of
> >>> failure or preempted situation.
> >>> 
> >>> Suggested:
> >>> Once the working LSP and the
> >>> protecting LSP are configured or preconfigured, the end node MUST
> >>> keep refreshing both working and protecting LSPs, regardless of
> >>> failure or preemption status. -->
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 6) <!-- [rfced] Section 5.6:  Do these four instances of "SMP protecting
> >>> LSP" mean "SMP's protecting LSP", "protecting LSP for SMP", or
> >>> something else?
> >>> 
> >>> Original:
> >>> SMP relies on APS protocol messages being exchanged between the nodes
> >>> along the path to activate an SMP protecting LSP.
> >>> 
> >>> In order to allow the exchange of APS protocol messages, an APS
> >>> channel has to be configured between adjacent nodes along the path of
> >>> the SMP protecting LSP.  This is done by other means than GMPLS
> >>> signaling, before any SMP protecting LSP has been set up.  Therefore,
> >>> there are likely additional requirements for APS configuration which
> >>> are outside the scope of this document.
> >>> 
> >>> Depending on the APS protocol message format, the APS protocol may
> >>> use different identifiers than GMPLS signaling to identify the SMP
> >>> protecting LSP. -->
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 7) <!-- [rfced] Section 6.2:  We had trouble determining what is "only
> >>> applicable" in this sentence, because of the comma after "1".  If
> >>> neither suggestion below is correct, please clarify.
> >>> 
> >>> Original:
> >>> The O bit is only
> >>> applicable when the P bit is set to 1, and the LSP Protection Type
> >>> Flag is set to 0x04 (1:N Protection with Extra-Traffic), 0x08 (1+1
> >>> Unidirectional Protection), 0x10 (1+1 Bidirectional Protection),
> >>> or 0x20 (Shared Mesh Protection).
> >>> 
> >>> Suggestion #1 (only applicable when (1) and (2) are applied):
> >>> The O bit is only
> >>> applicable when (1) the P bit is set to 1 and (2) the LSP Protection
> >>> Type Flag is set to 0x04 (1:N Protection with Extra-Traffic), 0x08
> >>> (1+1 Unidirectional Protection), 0x10 (1+1 Bidirectional
> >>> Protection), or 0x20 (Shared Mesh Protection).
> >>> 
> >>> Suggestion #2 (only applicable when the P bit is set to 1):
> >>> The O bit is only
> >>> applicable when the P bit is set to 1.  Also, the LSP Protection
> >>> Type Flag is set to 0x04 (1:N Protection with Extra-Traffic),
> >>> 0x08 (1+1 Unidirectional Protection), 0x10 (1+1 Bidirectional
> >>> Protection), or 0x20 (Shared Mesh Protection). -->
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 8) <!-- [rfced] Section 6.3:  This paragraph was difficult to follow;
> >>> for example, "several fields from that field" reads oddly.  Also,
> >>> the fourth sentence appeared to conflict with Section 1, Paragraph 1,
> >>> last sentence of this document, as well as Section 9.2 of RFC 4873.
> >>> We updated the text as follows.  Please review carefully, and let us
> >>> know if anything is incorrect.
> >>> 
> >>> Original:
> >>> [RFC4872] reserved a 32-bit field in the PROTECTION object header.
> >>> Subsequently, [RFC4873] allocated several fields from that field, and
> >>> left the remainder of the bits reserved.  This specification further
> >>> allocates the preemption priority field from those formerly-reserved
> >>> bits.  The 32-bit field in the PROTECTION object defined in [RFC4873]
> >>> are updated as follows:
> >>> 
> >>> Currently (the subject-verb disagreement in the fourth sentence has
> >>> been corrected):
> >>> [RFC4872] reserved a 32-bit field in the PROTECTION object header.
> >>> Subsequently, [RFC4873] allocated several bits from that field and
> >>> left the remainder of the bits reserved.  This specification further
> >>> allocates the Preemption Priority field from the remaining formerly
> >>> reserved bits.  The 32-bit field in the PROTECTION object as defined
> >>> in [RFC4872] and modified by [RFC4873] is updated by this document as
> >>> follows: -->
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 9) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of the
> >>> online Style Guide at
> >>> <https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language>,
> >>> and let us know if any changes are needed. Note that our script did not
> >>> flag any words or phrases. -->
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 10) <!-- [rfced] The following terms were used inconsistently in this
> >>> document.  We chose to use the latter forms.  Please let us know any
> >>> objections.
> >>> 
> >>> LSP protection type / LSP Protection Type (per RFC 4872)
> >>> 
> >>> Protection Object / PROTECTION object (in text) (per RFC 4872,
> >>> with one exception, which appears to be an oversight) -->
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Thank you.
> >>> 
> >>> RFC Editor
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> On Jul 12, 2022, at 3:32 PM, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> *****IMPORTANT*****
> >>> 
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> >>> 
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> >>> --------------------------------------
> >>> RFC9270 (draft-ietf-teas-gmpls-signaling-smp-12)
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> >>> Title            : GMPLS Signaling Extensions for Shared Mesh Protection
> >>> Author(s)        : J. He, I. Busi, J. Ryoo, B. Yoon, P. Park
> >>> WG Chair(s)      : Vishnu Pavan Beeram, Lou Berger
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