Re: [Autoconf] On WG progress and draft-ietf-autoconf-adhoc-addr-model
HyungJin Lim <dream.hjlim@gmail.com> Fri, 23 October 2009 13:56 UTC
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From: HyungJin Lim <dream.hjlim@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Autoconf] On WG progress and draft-ietf-autoconf-adhoc-addr-model
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Hi, This is Hyung-Jin Lim. I am still reading AUTOCONF mailing lists. I also agree to Teco's suggestion totally. Thanks. 2009/10/23 Alexandru Petrescu <alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com> > Teco Boot a écrit : > > Hi Ryuji, Thomas, >> >> o if you think that the WG should proceed with >>> >> draft-ietf-autoconf-adhoc-addr-model >> >>> as a baseline, say so! >>> >> >> I am neutral on this. >> >> I think my comments on earlier versions are not well incorporated and the >> document misses essential elements for a practical addressing scheme for >> MANETs, such as global addresses and usage of ULAs. I think the recently >> published "bernardos alternative" is more complete and also better specifies >> LL usage. >> I prefer not extending useless discussions on LLs, but careful wording for >> it. >> >> >> o if you think there're cardinal (but fixable) issues missing or >>> wrong >>> >> with >> >>> draft-ietf-autoconf-adhoc-addr-model, then let the WG know what >>> >> these >> >>> issues are, and propose a solution before the deadline. The >>> Editors will certainly do their best to address the issues. >>> >> >> I posted this already. >> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/autoconf/current/msg01828.html >> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/autoconf/current/msg01830.html >> I do not understand why text is not corrected yet. >> >> >> o if you think that draft-ietf-autoconf-adhoc-addr-model is beyond >>> >> hope, >> >>> let the WG know explicitly how you suggest that we progress at >>> this >>> >> point -- >> >>> considering the current timeline!! >>> >> >> After 3 months, we have a new version with only small updates >> (enhancements >> or wrong text, make your choice). I think this progress is extremely >> disappointing. Or "beyond hope". >> >> >> A question on procedure: can we decide to swap the content of >> draft-ietf-autoconf-adhoc-addr-model, e.g. a new version with content of >> draft-bernardos-autoconf-addressing-model or a merger of those? >> > > This is something I tend to agree to. I am suggesting the same thing: copy > relevant things from draft-bernardos and paste on the WG item document. > > Of course, it depends how this is done, but it is a good direction IMHO. > > Alex > > > >> >> Anyway, we have more progress than listed on the Autoconf page: we have >> completed our fourth goal: there is a initial draft on addressing model in >> ad hoc networks. And we might not be that far away from our last >> milestone. >> >> Regards, Teco >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Autoconf mailing list >> Autoconf@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/autoconf >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Autoconf mailing list > Autoconf@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/autoconf >
- [Autoconf] On WG progress and draft-ietf-autoconf… Thomas Heide Clausen
- Re: [Autoconf] On WG progress and draft-ietf-auto… sratliff
- Re: [Autoconf] On WG progress and draft-ietf-auto… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] On WG progress and draft-ietf-auto… Ulrich Herberg
- Re: [Autoconf] On WG progress and draft-ietf-auto… Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano
- Re: [Autoconf] On WG progress and draft-ietf-auto… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] On WG progress and draft-ietf-auto… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] On WG progress and draft-ietf-auto… HyungJin Lim
- Re: [Autoconf] On WG progress and draft-ietf-auto… Thomas Heide Clausen
- Re: [Autoconf] On WG progress and draft-ietf-auto… Ryuji Wakikawa
- Re: [Autoconf] On WG progress and draft-ietf-auto… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] On WG progress and draft-ietf-auto… Ryuji Wakikawa
- Re: [Autoconf] On WG progress and draft-ietf-auto… Ryuji Wakikawa
- Re: [Autoconf] On WG progress anddraft-ietf-autoc… mase
- Re: [Autoconf] On WG progress anddraft-ietf-autoc… Emmanuel Baccelli
- Re: [Autoconf] On WG progress anddraft-ietf-autoc… Thomas Heide Clausen
- Re: [Autoconf] On WG progress and draft-ietf-auto… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] On WG progress and draft-ietf-auto… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] On WG progress and draft-ietf-auto… Hajime Tazaki
- Re: [Autoconf] On WG progress and draft-ietf-auto… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] On WG progress anddraft-ietf-autoc… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Autoconf] On WG progress anddraft-ietf-autoc… Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano
- Re: [Autoconf] On WG progress anddraft-ietf-autoc… Juan Antonio Cordero Fuertes
- Re: [Autoconf] On WG progress and draft-ietf-auto… Cedric Adjih
- [Autoconf] draft-bernardos-autoconf-addressing-mo… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Autoconf] draft-bernardos-autoconf-addressin… Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano
- Re: [Autoconf] draft-bernardos-autoconf-addressin… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] On WG progress and draft-ietf-auto… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] On WG progress and draft-ietf-auto… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] On WG progress and draft-ietf-auto… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] On WG progress and draft-ietf-auto… Ryuji Wakikawa
- Re: [Autoconf] On WG progress and draft-ietf-auto… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] issues with draft-baccelli address… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] On WG progress and draft-ietf-auto… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] issues with draft-baccelli address… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] issues with draft-baccelli address… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] issues with draft-baccelli address… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] issues with draft-baccelli address… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] issues with draft-baccelli address… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] On WG progress anddraft-ietf-autoc… Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano
- Re: [Autoconf] issues with draft-baccelli address… Ulrich Herberg
- Re: [Autoconf] issues with draft-baccelli address… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] issues with draft-baccelli address… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] issues with draft-baccelli address… Ulrich Herberg
- Re: [Autoconf] issues with draft-baccelli address… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] On WG progress and draft-ietf-auto… Velt, R. (Ronald) in 't
- Re: [Autoconf] On WG progress anddraft-ietf-autoc… Holtzer, A.C.G. (Arjen)
- Re: [Autoconf] On WG progress anddraft-ietf-autoc… Ulrich Herberg
- Re: [Autoconf] On WG progress anddraft-ietf-autoc… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] On WG progress anddraft-ietf-autoc… Ulrich Herberg
- Re: [Autoconf] On WG progress anddraft-ietf-autoc… Holtzer, A.C.G. (Arjen)
- Re: [Autoconf] issues with draft-baccelli address… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] On WG progress and draft-ietf-auto… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] issues with draft-baccelli address… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] issues with draft-baccelli address… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] issues with draft-baccelli address… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] issues with draft-baccelli address… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] issues with draft-baccelli address… sratliff
- Re: [Autoconf] issues with draft-baccelli address… sratliff
- Re: [Autoconf] issues with draft-baccelli address… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] issues with draft-baccelli address… sratliff
- Re: [Autoconf] On WG progress and draft-ietf-auto… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] issues with draft-baccelli address… Ulrich Herberg
- Re: [Autoconf] issues with draft-baccelli address… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] On WG progress and draft-ietf-auto… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] issues with draft-baccelli address… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] On WG progress and draft-ietf-auto… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] issues with draft-baccelli address… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] On WG progress and draft-ietf-auto… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] issues with draft-baccelli address… Thomas Heide Clausen
- Re: [Autoconf] issues with draft-baccelli address… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] issues with draft-baccelli address… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] issues with draft-baccelli address… Thomas Heide Clausen
- Re: [Autoconf] issues with draft-baccelli address… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] On WG progress and draft-ietf-auto… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] issues with draft-baccelli address… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] issues with draft-baccelli address… Alexandru Petrescu