Re: [AVTCORE] ***SPAM*** 5.977 (5) RE: Mail regarding RFC 7273
worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) Wed, 17 December 2014 22:54 UTC
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Subject: Re: [AVTCORE] ***SPAM*** 5.977 (5) RE: Mail regarding RFC 7273
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Julius Friedman <juliusfriedman@gmail.com> writes: > My position is unchanged. > > Its my goal to fix existing issues in the spec and well as simplify it > where possible. If you think there are problems in the operation of real systems, why don't you propose additional mechanisms that will solve the problems? No, you aren't going to change the definition of a mechanism whose definition is an RFC. It's just not going to happen; people already have implementations of the RFC in production. The way to achieve useful change in the IETF is to write an Internet-Draft explaining what the problem is and proposing suitable additional mechanisms. Then you discuss it on the mailing list, looking for people who agree with you that the problem exists and the mechanism will solve it. And of course, taking their feedback to heart. A very useful reference is RFC 4144, "How to Gain Prominence and Influence in Standards Organizations". https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc4144/ Also, please remember the core principles of the IETF: "All my speak." "Not all are listened to." If one annoys people, it is not a crime, but it removes the one path one has to influence: being listened to. Dale
- Re: [AVTCORE] Mail regarding draft-ietf-avtcore-c… Julius Friedman
- Re: [AVTCORE] Mail regarding draft-ietf-avtcore-c… Julius Friedman
- Re: [AVTCORE] Mail regarding draft-ietf-avtcore-c… Julius Friedman
- [AVTCORE] ***SPAM*** 7.478 (5) Re: Mail regarding… Kevin Gross
- [AVTCORE] ***SPAM*** 5.861 (5) RE: Mail regarding… Brandenburg, R. (Ray) van
- Re: [AVTCORE] Mail regarding draft-ietf-avtcore-c… Brandenburg, R. (Ray) van
- Re: [AVTCORE] Mail regarding draft-ietf-avtcore-c… Simon Perreault
- Re: [AVTCORE] Mail regarding draft-ietf-avtcore-c… Julius Friedman
- Re: [AVTCORE] Mail regarding draft-ietf-avtcore-c… Julius Friedman
- Re: [AVTCORE] Mail regarding draft-ietf-avtcore-c… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [AVTCORE] Mail regarding draft-ietf-avtcore-c… Brandenburg, R. (Ray) van
- Re: [AVTCORE] Mail regarding draft-ietf-avtcore-c… Stokking, H.M. (Hans)
- [AVTCORE] ***SPAM*** 5.861 (5) RE: Mail regarding… Brandenburg, R. (Ray) van
- [AVTCORE] ***SPAM*** 5.977 (5) RE: Mail regarding… Julius Friedman
- Re: [AVTCORE] ***SPAM*** 5.977 (5) RE: Mail regar… Dale R. Worley
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