Re: [BEHAVE] presentations at IETF82

"Dan Wing" <dwing@cisco.com> Wed, 28 September 2011 01:36 UTC

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From: Dan Wing <dwing@cisco.com>
To: 'Marc Blanchet' <marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca>
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Subject: Re: [BEHAVE] presentations at IETF82
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marc Blanchet [mailto:marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 5:22 PM
> To: Dan Wing
> Cc: behave@ietf.org; behave-chairs@tools.ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [BEHAVE] presentations at IETF82
> 
> Dan, I'm puzzled. Behave was shutting down. And then out of the blue, a
> meeting. Can you explain in general, and also in this context, what
> means "working group items"?

Yes.  Let me explain from my perspective what I see happening with
BEHAVE:

BEHAVE is at an inflection point -- we are changing direction.  We
have completed our initial work (STUN, TURN, multicast/TCP/UDP/ICMP
behavior documents) and completed what might be called our 
"NAT-PTbis" work (the document set related to NAT64/DNS64).

As you all recall, we had very little discussion on the list prior to
IETF81, which is why we had allocated only an hour.  Participant 
energy was going away because we had completed our major milestones.
So, we asked if we could close BEHAVE.  We spent about half of our
meeting time at IETF81 talking about the future of BEHAVE rather 
than discussing documents.

After IETF81, the chairs built a list of I-Ds that had been 
proposed into the working  group, and have shared that with 
David Harrington, our AD.  Some of these documents seem like they 
fit into BEHAVE's existing charter and some don't.

David Harrington is currently on vacation, and will return from 
vacation next week.  I don't know what he will decide.  I 
know that activity on the Behave mailing list and updated 
documents will likely keep the working group energized and 
keep the chairs energized.  And I would expect such activity 
will also keep the working group open.  

To answer your specific question:  In the spirit of keeping 
things moving along, I had requested more agenda time (two hours) 
than we had at IETF81 (one hour) and I sent out the 'presentations 
for IETF82' email to ensure existing work continues and that 
we learn of new work (-00 or updates to existing documents) 
that is aimed at BEHAVE.  This will provide additional input to
David Harrington to decide if Behave should have additional
milestones, charter update, or be closed.

With multicast translation and the Mon/Tue Softwire interim
in Beijing (which I did not attend, but I know included 
discussions on double translation (Dual-IVI)), there may well
be more work coming towards Behave, towards Softwire, another
working group, or a new working group.

-d


> Marc.
> 
> Le 2011-09-27 à 20:02, Dan Wing a écrit :
> 
> > We requested a 2 hour slot for BEHAVE.
> >
> > If you would like to present in BEHAVE at IETF82, please send to
> > behave-chairs@tools.ietf.org:
> >  - topic title
> >  - presenter's name
> >  - Internet Draft filename(s)
> >  - time requested
> >
> > We will give priority to:
> >  1. working group items
> >  2. items actively discussed on the mailing list
> >  3. new topics
> >
> > Please send the request by October 24th, which is also the cutoff
> > date for initial Internet Drafts (-00).
> >
> > -Dan and Dave
> >
> >
> >
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