Re: [BEHAVE] presentations at IETF82

We said last time we would complete the existing milestones, including meeting as needed to finish them.
Not doing so was never part of the question.

We also said we'd consider the MIB work as being (the management) part of existing work, if there's enough interest.  (And there seems to be.)

We will give priority to presentations that are on existing milestones.
If there is still time left over, we'll allow presentations on things that are in scope for discussion but have no milestones (even if they later move to another group).  

That's because even if work is happening elsewhere, some things are good to also have the behave WG review.   As long as we're meeting anyway, we can use leftover meeting time, if any, to have a higher bandwidth review of other items that should be reviewed by behave folks, rather than just using the mailing list.

Hope that clarifies,
-Dave

> -----Original Message-----
> From: behave-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:behave-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf
> Of Dan Wing
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 6:39 PM
> To: 'Marc Blanchet'
> Cc: behave@ietf.org; behave-chairs@tools.ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [BEHAVE] presentations at IETF82
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Marc Blanchet [mailto:marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 5:22 PM
> > To: Dan Wing
> > Cc: behave@ietf.org; behave-chairs@tools.ietf.org
> > Subject: Re: [BEHAVE] presentations at IETF82
> >
> > Dan, I'm puzzled. Behave was shutting down. And then out of the blue,
> > a meeting. Can you explain in general, and also in this context, what
> > means "working group items"?
> 
> Yes.  Let me explain from my perspective what I see happening with
> BEHAVE:
> 
> BEHAVE is at an inflection point -- we are changing direction.  We have
> completed our initial work (STUN, TURN, multicast/TCP/UDP/ICMP behavior
> documents) and completed what might be called our "NAT-PTbis" work (the
> document set related to NAT64/DNS64).
> 
> As you all recall, we had very little discussion on the list prior to IETF81,
> which is why we had allocated only an hour.  Participant energy was going
> away because we had completed our major milestones.
> So, we asked if we could close BEHAVE.  We spent about half of our meeting
> time at IETF81 talking about the future of BEHAVE rather than discussing
> documents.
> 
> After IETF81, the chairs built a list of I-Ds that had been proposed into the
> working  group, and have shared that with David Harrington, our AD.  Some
> of these documents seem like they fit into BEHAVE's existing charter and
> some don't.
> 
> David Harrington is currently on vacation, and will return from vacation next
> week.  I don't know what he will decide.  I know that activity on the Behave
> mailing list and updated documents will likely keep the working group
> energized and keep the chairs energized.  And I would expect such activity
> will also keep the working group open.
> 
> To answer your specific question:  In the spirit of keeping things moving
> along, I had requested more agenda time (two hours) than we had at IETF81
> (one hour) and I sent out the 'presentations for IETF82' email to ensure
> existing work continues and that we learn of new work (-00 or updates to
> existing documents) that is aimed at BEHAVE.  This will provide additional
> input to David Harrington to decide if Behave should have additional
> milestones, charter update, or be closed.
> 
> With multicast translation and the Mon/Tue Softwire interim in Beijing
> (which I did not attend, but I know included discussions on double
> translation (Dual-IVI)), there may well be more work coming towards Behave,
> towards Softwire, another working group, or a new working group.
> 
> -d
> 
> 
> > Marc.
> >
> > Le 2011-09-27 à 20:02, Dan Wing a écrit :
> >
> > > We requested a 2 hour slot for BEHAVE.
> > >
> > > If you would like to present in BEHAVE at IETF82, please send to
> > > behave-chairs@tools.ietf.org:
> > >  - topic title
> > >  - presenter's name
> > >  - Internet Draft filename(s)
> > >  - time requested
> > >
> > > We will give priority to:
> > >  1. working group items
> > >  2. items actively discussed on the mailing list  3. new topics
> > >
> > > Please send the request by October 24th, which is also the cutoff
> > > date for initial Internet Drafts (-00).
> > >
> > > -Dan and Dave
> > >
> > >
> > >
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