[BEHAVE] Some comments on draft-li-behave-nat444-test-00

"Reinaldo Penno (repenno)" <repenno@cisco.com> Wed, 11 July 2012 16:40 UTC

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From: "Reinaldo Penno (repenno)" <repenno@cisco.com>
To: "Will Liu (Shucheng)" <liushucheng@huawei.com>, "Zhangzongjian (Thomas)" <zhangzhongjian@huawei.com>, "Dan Wing (dwing)" <dwing@cisco.com>, "draft-li-behave-nat444-test@tools.ietf.org" <draft-li-behave-nat444-test@tools.ietf.org>, "15301588336@189.cn" <15301588336@189.cn>, "15306188213@189.cn" <15306188213@189.cn>, "liuchunlin@jsptpd.com" <liuchunlin@jsptpd.com>
Thread-Topic: Some comments on draft-li-behave-nat444-test-00
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Subject: [BEHAVE] Some comments on draft-li-behave-nat444-test-00
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Hello,

Some comments on your draft which I believe is interesting.

Most of your tests are subscriber initiated connections which results in
Internet (I) ->subscriber (S) traffic over TCP/UDP. We all know this works
well with CGN. The interesting cases are I/S<->S for gratuitous
connections. In that sense, some comments below.

Is on-line gaming with consoles popular in China? PS3, XBOX, Nintendo?

People do not seed torrents in China? That is very popular in other parts
of the world. 

I would like to understand how the CGN was configured. Were mappings APP
enabled? EIM & EIF? Hairpinning enabled? This, of course is specially
interesting on the I/S<->S scenarios.

As far a VPN goes, the interesting ones from CGN perspective are IPsec
(not over UDP) and PPTP.

Thanks,

- RP

>
>Have a nice day!
>Will
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Zhangzongjian (Thomas)
>Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 11:40 AM
>To: Dan Wing; draft-li-behave-nat444-test@tools.ietf.org;
>15301588336@189.cn; 15306188213@189.cn; liuchunlin@jsptpd.com; Will Liu
>(Shucheng)
>Cc: behave@ietf.org
>Subject: RE: comment on draft-li-behave-nat444-test-00, FTP active/passive
>
>Dear Dan
>In fact we tested the typical FTP active model as an illustration for the
>FTP scenarios. In such an example, the FTP server is in public networks
>and FTP client is in private network. Thanks for your comments. We will
>add the detailed description in the next version.
>
>Thomas
>Best regards
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dan Wing [mailto:dwing@cisco.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 8:24 AM
>To: draft-li-behave-nat444-test@tools.ietf.org; 15301588336@189.cn;
>15306188213@189.cn; liuchunlin@jsptpd.com; Will Liu (Shucheng);
>Zhangzongjian (Thomas)
>Subject: comment on draft-li-behave-nat444-test-00, FTP active/passive
>
>Hi.
>
>It would be helpful in your FTP test results if you indicated if passive
>(PASV) or active mode was tested.
>
>-d
>
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