Re: [bfcpbis] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis-15.txt

"Charles Eckel (eckelcu)" <eckelcu@cisco.com> Thu, 27 October 2016 10:33 UTC

Return-Path: <eckelcu@cisco.com>
X-Original-To: bfcpbis@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: bfcpbis@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEEAE129D46 for <bfcpbis@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 27 Oct 2016 03:33:03 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -14.952
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.952 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.431, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GvSaZwxPWi_2 for <bfcpbis@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 27 Oct 2016 03:32:59 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from rcdn-iport-1.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-1.cisco.com [173.37.86.72]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AF344129D4C for <bfcpbis@ietf.org>; Thu, 27 Oct 2016 03:32:58 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=18008; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1477564378; x=1478773978; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:references:in-reply-to: mime-version; bh=sFcrOIu+bLQ9hZH5hkqo3XKGcu6HSDvS46Oafeocsv8=; b=foLGvybiT+FyD/ine0MMbYKr1LPNWQ0iKS/MywxeVJnArUg3Zl4EMeHn YzBFkPuKVasZKxKewVj5epM/kHQuiEagzDvSmSTOqEZ+0P/auc5S/CmGh YAZfrRMVbg9NlzZME6oHHXiqILDQ7OekvczjYljd+D4NG2sMwqDCAJB2U 0=;
X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true
X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0CeAQBs1xFY/4kNJK1cDgwBAQEBAgEBAQEIAQEBAYJzNwEBAQEBHVh9B40wln+PKYUWggccAQqFMUoCGoFqPxQBAgEBAQEBAQFiKIRiAQEBBAEBASBLFwQCAQgRBAEBKAMCAgIlCxQJCAIEARIbiDkOslCMegEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBARcFiDoIglCEXoJtLIIvBZoWAZAhkASNC4QAAR42Ij2ETjtyh1aBCQEBAQ
X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.31,404,1473120000"; d="scan'208,217";a="167997664"
Received: from alln-core-4.cisco.com ([173.36.13.137]) by rcdn-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 27 Oct 2016 10:32:57 +0000
Received: from XCH-ALN-018.cisco.com (xch-aln-018.cisco.com [173.36.7.28]) by alln-core-4.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id u9RAWvHw011336 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Thu, 27 Oct 2016 10:32:57 GMT
Received: from xch-aln-018.cisco.com (173.36.7.28) by XCH-ALN-018.cisco.com (173.36.7.28) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1210.3; Thu, 27 Oct 2016 05:32:57 -0500
Received: from xch-aln-018.cisco.com ([173.36.7.28]) by XCH-ALN-018.cisco.com ([173.36.7.28]) with mapi id 15.00.1210.000; Thu, 27 Oct 2016 05:32:56 -0500
From: "Charles Eckel (eckelcu)" <eckelcu@cisco.com>
To: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>, Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu>, "bfcpbis@ietf.org" <bfcpbis@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [bfcpbis] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis-15.txt
Thread-Index: AQHSLs8jnTAKvOUkg0C1WeMWEIqx5qC7cocA///pAwCAAARPgIAAFOKAgAAK3oCAARMWgA==
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 10:32:56 +0000
Message-ID: <92836402-973C-460E-9AF6-905F399F491B@cisco.com>
References: <E0BFE4A5-6F33-4D5E-84F3-28D14F957A4D@cisco.com> <7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B4BC27452@ESESSMB209.ericsson.se> <ECE36C48-D3E2-4F94-97F1-89C48C27CD89@cisco.com> <FDADA906-1933-40DD-B1A8-9800F8B1567D@cooperw.in> <0D0D949F-A7B1-4B27-A45E-2C799927CC14@cisco.com> <1477504758174.60572@cisco.com> <7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B4BDF4C41@ESESSMB209.ericsson.se> <7282fd52-ddb3-4715-acf7-78911c7b063d@alum.mit.edu> <7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B4BDF5D56@ESESSMB209.ericsson.se>
In-Reply-To: <7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B4BDF5D56@ESESSMB209.ericsson.se>
Accept-Language: en-US
Content-Language: en-US
X-MS-Has-Attach:
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/f.1b.0.161010
x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1
x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted
x-originating-ip: [10.61.104.158]
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_92836402973C460E9AF6905F399F491Bciscocom_"
MIME-Version: 1.0
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bfcpbis/mazQTDASI7I6pFF8fwfKiit44iU>
Subject: Re: [bfcpbis] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis-15.txt
X-BeenThere: bfcpbis@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17
Precedence: list
List-Id: BFCPBIS working group discussion list <bfcpbis.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/bfcpbis>, <mailto:bfcpbis-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/bfcpbis/>
List-Post: <mailto:bfcpbis@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:bfcpbis-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bfcpbis>, <mailto:bfcpbis-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 10:33:04 -0000

Christer and Paul,

Having taken another look at the mux attributes draft, I think you are both correct.
TBD is defined as follows:

4.9.  Category: TBD

   The attributes in the TBD category have not been analyzed under the
   proposed multiplexing framework and SHOULD NOT be multiplexed.

This seems appropriate not only for bfcpver but also for floorctlr. If we agree to this, the mux attribute draft would need to be updated to reflect this.

Cheers,
Charles

On 10/26/16, 10:08 PM, "bfcpbis on behalf of Christer Holmberg" <bfcpbis-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:bfcpbis-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of christer.holmberg@ericsson.com<mailto:christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>> wrote:

Hi,

I wonder whether draft-mux-attributes should define the mux category for attributes associated with BFCP to begin with. Because, IF someone at some point defines how to bundle BFCP, draft-mux-attributes would have to be updated.

Regards,

Christer


-----Original Message-----
From: bfcpbis [mailto:bfcpbis-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Paul Kyzivat
Sent: 26 October 2016 22:29
To: bfcpbis@ietf.org<mailto:bfcpbis@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [bfcpbis] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis-15.txt

On 10/26/16 2:14 PM, Christer Holmberg wrote:
Hi,


I don't understand how it can be IDENTICAL if we haven't even defined
how to bundle multiple bfcp streams.

+1

I suspect that the solution to bundling bfcp will be bfcp over data channel.

    Thanks,
    Paul

_______________________________________________
bfcpbis mailing list
bfcpbis@ietf.org<mailto:bfcpbis@ietf.org>
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bfcpbis

_______________________________________________
bfcpbis mailing list
bfcpbis@ietf.org<mailto:bfcpbis@ietf.org>
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bfcpbis