Re: [Bier] FW: I-D Action: draft-kumar-bier-use-cases-01.txt
"Robinson, Dom" <Dom@id3as.co.uk> Mon, 02 February 2015 11:06 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Bier] FW: I-D Action: draft-kumar-bier-use-cases-01.txt
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(Greg - I am not sure if i eventually got allowed to post this - i cant see it in my own inbox although i did receive a mail from the BIER mailer asking me to confirm, which i did.. Perhaps I have to post again: so please see comment below (assuming this makes it) else can you guys perhaps forward my input to the list? Dom On 1 February 2015 at 01:23, Robinson, Dom <Dom@id3as.co.uk> wrote: > Hi guys - i wonder if it would be worth extending the IPTV section to > embrace content pre-placement in not only IPTV, but OTT and even > big-software update and other such CDN activity: I stay close to IP > Multicast specifically for this use case, and I always think it is > interesting that while live/linear is an obvious Multicast candidate, > pre-placing content in many caches that is known to be 'about to be heavily > requested' is actually an extremely valuable capability - even if it is not > live.... > > Just a thought. > > While i am a n00b to the formality of an IETF draft, if you like i would > be happy to try to extend that IPTV paragraph to try to explain that 'CDN' > focussed use case...? > > Let me know - ill try to contribute before the start of next week.... > > Kind regards > > Dom > > On 30 January 2015 at 21:34, Nagendra Kumar Nainar (naikumar) < > naikumar@cisco.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Below is the updated version of BIER use case draft. >> >> Please read and share your comments. >> >> Regards, >> Nagendra >> >> >> >> On 1/30/15, 3:40 PM, "internet-drafts@ietf.org" <internet-drafts@ietf.org >> > >> wrote: >> >> > >> >A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >> >directories. >> > >> > >> > Title : BIER Use Cases >> > Authors : Nagendra Kumar >> > Rajiv Asati >> > Mach(Guoyi) Chen >> > Xiaohu Xu >> > Andrew Dolganow >> > Tony Przygienda >> > Arkadiy Gulko >> > Filename : draft-kumar-bier-use-cases-01.txt >> > Pages : 11 >> > Date : 2015-01-30 >> > >> >Abstract: >> > Bit Index Explicit Replication (BIER) is an architecture that >> > provides optimal multicast forwarding through a "BIER domain" without >> > requiring intermediate routers to maintain any multicast related per- >> > flow state. BIER also does not require any explicit tree-building >> > protocol for its operation. A multicast data packet enters a BIER >> > domain at a "Bit-Forwarding Ingress Router" (BFIR), and leaves the >> > BIER domain at one or more "Bit-Forwarding Egress Routers" (BFERs). >> > The BFIR router adds a BIER header to the packet. The BIER header >> > contains a bit-string in which each bit represents exactly one BFER >> > to forward the packet to. The set of BFERs to which the multicast >> > packet needs to be forwarded is expressed by setting the bits that >> > correspond to those routers in the BIER header. >> > >> > This document describes some of the use-cases for BIER. >> > >> > >> >The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >> >https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-kumar-bier-use-cases/ >> > >> >There's also a htmlized version available at: >> >http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kumar-bier-use-cases-01 >> > >> >A diff from the previous version is available at: >> >http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-kumar-bier-use-cases-01 >> > >> > >> >Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of >> >submission >> >until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >> > >> >Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >> >ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >I-D-Announce mailing list >> >I-D-Announce@ietf.org >> >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce >> >Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html >> >or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BIER mailing list >> BIER@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bier >> > > > > -- > Dom Robinson > Co-Founder, Director and Creative Firestarter @ id3as-company ltd > Innovation, Development, Architecture, Strategy > for IT, Cloud and StreamingMedia Projects > uk.linkedin.com/in/domrobinson > > Also Contributing Editor for www.StreamingMedia.com > http://www.streamingmediaglobal.com/Authors/4268-Dom-Robinson.htm > -- Dom Robinson Co-Founder, Director and Creative Firestarter @ id3as-company ltd Innovation, Development, Architecture, Strategy for IT, Cloud and StreamingMedia Projects uk.linkedin.com/in/domrobinson Also Contributing Editor for www.StreamingMedia.com http://www.streamingmediaglobal.com/Authors/4268-Dom-Robinson.htm
- [Bier] FW: I-D Action: draft-kumar-bier-use-cases… Nagendra Kumar Nainar (naikumar)
- Re: [Bier] planning Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Bier] planning Greg Shepherd
- Re: [Bier] planning Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Bier] FW: I-D Action: draft-kumar-bier-use-c… Robinson, Dom
- Re: [Bier] planning Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Bier] FW: I-D Action: draft-kumar-bier-use-c… Robinson, Dom
- Re: [Bier] FW: I-D Action: draft-kumar-bier-use-c… Dom Robinson
- Re: [Bier] FW: I-D Action: draft-kumar-bier-use-c… Alia Atlas
- Re: [Bier] FW: I-D Action: draft-kumar-bier-use-c… Nagendra Kumar Nainar (naikumar)