Re: [Bier] AD Review of draft-ietf-bier-pim-signaling-11
Tony Przygienda <tonysietf@gmail.com> Mon, 26 July 2021 20:19 UTC
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From: Tony Przygienda <tonysietf@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2021 22:18:48 +0200
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To: Alvaro Retana <aretana.ietf@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Bier] AD Review of draft-ietf-bier-pim-signaling-11
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On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 9:27 PM Alvaro Retana <aretana.ietf@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear authors: > > Thank you for your work and the patience through the publication process. > > > I just finished reading this document -- it still needs work! In > general, tightening up the specification is needed -- this is a > Standards Track document! Also, as written, this document is not > compliant with rfc7761 -- I included most of my concerns about this > point in §3.1.3.1 (search for line 338). > > > There are some process issues (listed in increasing severity) that I > need the Chairs'/Shepherd's input on: > > (1) 6 authors are listed in the front page, but rfc7322 recommends a limit > of > 5. Chairs: Can you please provide justification for going over the > limit? [In general, I think that 6 is an ok number -- we just > need to cross the T's...] > Alvaro, as you know, I was vocal about that authors' limit a while ago and how IETF is lagging here. Given size of teams working in specs now and their complexity we should change the format to a authors' section of arbitrary size (and drop the contributors stuff). Here, I can only appeal to Hooman as editor to prune the author's list to arbitrary small number >= 1 set by IETF ;-) > > > (2) I didn't see a specific request from the Chairs asking the pim WG to > review, or them being cc'd in any of the WGLCs. Did I miss it? Given > the amount of PIM content in this document, that interaction should > have > already happened. > > I realize that there's a significant overlap in participation between > the > two WGs, so I'm cc'ing pim on this message and will forward the IETF LC > when we get to that stage. > thanks, if Greg didn't extend a call for cross-review, please consider me extending one. Stig, as PIM WG chair could you pls send a call out to cross-review the document. > > > (3) This document replaces draft-hfa-bier-pim-signaling, but that linkage > had > not been indicated in the datatracker when Publication was requested. > The main issue with this oversight is that draft-hfa-bier-pim-signaling > has two IPR declarations [1]. The Shepherd's writeup says that no IPR > had > been filed against this document. Also, I didn't find an IPR poll in > the > archives. > > I have added the link between this document and > draft-hfa-bier-pim-signaling. > > To address this issue, I need the Chairs to please poll the authors > about > any non-declared IPR. Please cc the WG (in case anyone else needs to > declare something) and include a link to the existing disclosures. > Once > each author has individually replied, I need the Shepherd to update the > writeup. > > [1] > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?submit=draft&id=draft-ietf-bier-pim-signaling ack, on the todo list. I will reissue IPR request for the draft. The technical stuff I leave out to the authors thanks -- tony
- [Bier] AD Review of draft-ietf-bier-pim-signaling… Alvaro Retana
- Re: [Bier] AD Review of draft-ietf-bier-pim-signa… Alvaro Retana
- Re: [Bier] AD Review of draft-ietf-bier-pim-signa… Bidgoli, Hooman (Nokia - CA/Ottawa)
- Re: [Bier] AD Review of draft-ietf-bier-pim-signa… Bidgoli, Hooman (Nokia - CA/Ottawa)
- Re: [Bier] AD Review of draft-ietf-bier-pim-signa… Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang
- Re: [Bier] AD Review of draft-ietf-bier-pim-signa… Bidgoli, Hooman (Nokia - CA/Ottawa)
- Re: [Bier] AD Review of draft-ietf-bier-pim-signa… Bidgoli, Hooman (Nokia - CA/Ottawa)
- Re: [Bier] AD Review of draft-ietf-bier-pim-signa… Alvaro Retana
- Re: [Bier] AD Review of draft-ietf-bier-pim-signa… Bidgoli, Hooman (Nokia - CA/Ottawa)
- Re: [Bier] AD Review of draft-ietf-bier-pim-signa… Tony Przygienda