Re: [C310] AUTH48 [JM]: RFC 9032 <draft-ietf-6tisch-enrollment-enhanced-beacon-14.txt> NOW AVAILABLE
"Prof. Diego Dujovne" <diego.dujovne@mail.udp.cl> Wed, 12 May 2021 21:57 UTC
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From: "Prof. Diego Dujovne" <diego.dujovne@mail.udp.cl>
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To: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
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Subject: Re: [C310] AUTH48 [JM]: RFC 9032 <draft-ietf-6tisch-enrollment-enhanced-beacon-14.txt> NOW AVAILABLE
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Dear all,
I have reviewed the proposed changes and Michael's responses
and I agree with them.
Regards,
Diego Dujovne
Le mer. 12 mai 2021 à 17:53, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> a
écrit :
>
> rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org wrote:
> > 1) <!--[rfced] Based on Michael's reply on the c310 list, we have
> > updated this title as follows. Please review.
>
> > Original: IEEE 802.15.4 Information Element encapsulation of 6TiSCH
> > Join and Enrollment Information
>
> > Current: Encapsulation of 6TiSCH Join and Enrollment Information
> > Elements
>
> > Also, should the abbreviated title (which appears in the running
> header
> > of the PDF file) be updated? Seems "ICMP" is not mentioned within the
> > document.
>
> > Current: IE for ICMPv6
>
> I guess this is historical, because the first versions of the document
> could
> carry arbitrary ICMPv6 payloads!
>
> So, the abbreviated title should probably be "Enroll Beacon"
>
> > 2) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that appear
> in
> > the title) for use on https://www.rfc-editor.org/search.
> -->
>
> BRSKI
> Enroll
> zero-touch
> DODAG balancing
> LLN balancing
>
> > 3) <!-- [rfced] Would the following improve the readability of the
> > sentence? We found Section 4.5.2 to provide a better overview of EB
> > roles (https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8180#section-4.5.2)
> Should
> > the section number here be changed?
>
> > Current: As explained in Section 6 of [RFC8180], the EB has a number
> of
> > purposes: synchronization of the Absolute Slot Number (ASN) and Join
> > Metric, carrying the timeslot template identifier, carrying the
> channel
> > hopping sequence identifier, and indicating the TSCH slotframe.
>
> > Perhaps: As explained in Section 4.5.2 of [RFC8180], the EB has a
> > number of purposes: it carries synchronization information such as
> the
> > Absolute Slot Number (ASN) and Join Metric and identifiers for the
> > timeslot template and the channel hopping sequence, and it indicates
> > the TSCH slotframe.
> -->
>
> Yes.
>
> > 4) <!-- [rfced] In the following sentence, perhaps "Join Proxy"
> instead
> > of "Join Assistant" is meant?
>
> > Current: 3. A new pledge may have to receive many EBs before it can
> > pick an appropriate network and/or closest Join Assistant to attach
> to.
> -->
>
> Yes, please change. JA was a term used in earlier minimal-security drafts.
> (I still prefer it, but consensus was for Join Proxy)
>
> > 5) <!--[rfced] How may this be rephrased to clarify and to avoid
> using
> > the citation as an adjective?
>
> > Current: The PANID is part of the [IEEE.802.15.4] Layer 2 header: it
> is
> > ...
>
> > Perhaps: The PANID is part of the Layer 2 header as defined in
> > [IEEE.802.15.4]: it is ...
> -->
>
> Okay.
>
> > 6) <!-- [rfced] Please clarify this sentence. Does "conceived of in a
> > similar fashion as" mean "considered similar to"?
>
> > Current: The PANID provides a context similar to the Extended Service
> > Set ID (ESSID) in 802.11 networking and can be conceived of in a
> > similar fashion as the 802.3 Ethernet VLAN tag in that it provides
> > context for all Layer 2 addresses.
>
> > Perhaps: The PANID provides a context similar to the Extended Service
> > Set ID (ESSID) in 802.11 networking and can be considered similar to
> > the 802.3 Ethernet VLAN tag in that it provides context for all
> Layer 2
> > addresses.
> -->
>
> Yes, that's better.
>
>
> > 7) <!-- [rfced] We note that the following is inconsistently
> > capitalized. How would you like it to be capitalized?
>
> > PAN priority field - 3 instances pan priority field - 3 instances
> -->
>
> "PAN" needs to be in upper case. It stood for Personal Area Network,
> from a time when 802.15.4 was going to be all about wearables, but at this
> point it's just "PAN".
>
> > 8) <!-- [rfced] May we capitalize "reserved" here to match the
> > formatting of the rest of the definition list?
>
> > Current: res: reserved bits MUST be ignored upon receipt and SHOULD
> be
> > set to 0 when sending.
>
> > Perhaps: res: Reserved bits MUST be ignored upon receipt and SHOULD
> be
> > set to 0 when sending.
>
> Yes, I like it capitalized like this.
>
> > Or perhaps: res: Any reserved bits MUST be ignored upon receipt and
> > SHOULD be set to 0 when sending.
> -->
>
> > 9) <!-- [rfced] In the sentence below, is perhaps "Join Proxy"
> instead
> > of "enrollment proxy" meant?
>
> > Current: A priority of 0x7f indicates that the announcer should never
> > be considered as a viable enrollment proxy.
> -->
>
> So, we renamed the document from Join to Enrollment, because "Join" means
> something different to ROLL WG types.
> In ROLL documents yet to arrive at the RPC, both terms are used in the same
> document.
>
> It would be better to leave this field as Enrollment Proxy.
> If I could have convinced 6tisch-minimal-security to change too, I would be
> happier.
>
> --
> Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca> . o O ( IPv6 IøT consulting )
> Sandelman Software Works Inc, Ottawa and Worldwide
>
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DIEGO DUJOVNE
Profesor Asociado
Escuela de Informática y Telecomunicaciones
Facultad de Ingeniería - Universidad Diego Portales - Chile
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- Re: [C310] AUTH48 [JM]: RFC 9032 <draft-ietf-6tis… Michael Richardson
- Re: [C310] AUTH48 [JM]: RFC 9032 <draft-ietf-6tis… Prof. Diego Dujovne
- Re: [C310] AUTH48 [JM]: RFC 9032 <draft-ietf-6tis… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [C310] AUTH48 [JM]: RFC 9032 <draft-ietf-6tis… Michael Richardson
- Re: [C310] AUTH48 [JM]: RFC 9032 <draft-ietf-6tis… Jean Mahoney
- Re: [C310] AUTH48 [JM]: RFC 9032 <draft-ietf-6tis… Prof. Diego Dujovne
- Re: [C310] AUTH48 [JM]: RFC 9032 <draft-ietf-6tis… Jean Mahoney
- Re: [C310] AUTH48 [JM]: RFC 9032 <draft-ietf-6tis… Michael Richardson
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