[Ietf-calsify] UID issues hinted to in draft-daboo-calsify-issues-00.txt

[Doug at Royer.com (Doug Royer)]

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From Doug at Royer.com  Mon Aug  1 15:57:56 2005
From: Doug at Royer.com (Doug Royer)
Date: Mon Aug  1 15:58:05 2005
Subject: [Ietf-calsify] Security and S/MIME draft-daboo-calsify-issues-00.txt
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From jwn2 at qualcomm.com  Mon Aug  1 16:30:43 2005
From: jwn2 at qualcomm.com (John W Noerenberg II)
Date: Mon Aug  1 16:31:03 2005
Subject: [Ietf-calsify] Final(?) agenda for CALSIFY tomorrow
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At 3:14 PM -0700 8/1/05, John  W Noerenberg II wrote:
>At 12:40 PM +0200 8/1/05, Lisa Dusseault wrote:
>>CALSIFY is now scheduled for 9:00 am Tuesday.  That sucks for 
>>people in US  who want to join us for Jabbering,
>
>I don't know if I'll make it, but if I do, since I'm still ajabber 
>novice, where do I find you?

Nevermind.  I figured it out.
From lisa at osafoundation.org  Tue Aug  2 01:52:20 2005
From: lisa at osafoundation.org (Lisa Dusseault)
Date: Tue Aug  2 01:52:27 2005
Subject: [Ietf-calsify] Final(?) agenda for CALSIFY tomorrow
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Thanks for the clarifications Doug, and I can assure you there was no  
intent to avoid communicating with you on your draft.  I wanted to discuss  
timezone registries and services in CALSIFY independent of Ted's  
comments.  As the discussion in the WG meeting showed today, although  
CALSIFY's work may not block on timezone rationalization, timezone work  
certainly does affect CALSIFY work and the draft needed to be pointed out  
to CALSIFY participants.

I'm not sure what it means to say that IANA "wants to do" a registry.   
It's my understanding that IANA implements registries (provided they're  
technically able to) based on IETF recommendations resulting from IETF  
review of proposals.  So it would seem more important whether the IETF  
wants IANA to do a registry (and how) and the CALSIFY WG discussion raised  
a few important questions about that.

Lisa

On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 18:57:04 +0200, Doug Royer <[e-mail]> wrote:

>
> There has been some misunderstanding here.
>
> 1) IANA does have the ability to register time zones and
>     they said they want that role.
>
> 2) They do NOT want to be a time zone 'server', just
>     a registration place.
>
> After emaling IANA and Ted I sent an email to CALSCH (where
> emails must go per 2445 for iCal registration processes) saying
> the next revision of the draft will remove all HTTP and FTP
> references making the draft an IANA registration process only.
> Something IANA says they want to do.
>
> And as soon as the ID submissions are allowed again (after meeting)
> I will submit a new additional 2nd draft: tz-server-00.
>
> And it would have been nice if Ted would have told me (the author
> of the independent draft) rather than talking to Lisa. In my last
> email to Ted I reminded him it was not a CALSIFY draft. Ted also
> talked to me in email about 'other ways' to do this, he was not
> specific. I want to move this draft forward. All communications
> need to be done with all knowledgeable persons.
>
> My 2nd 'SERVER' idea that is independent of the registration draft
> is to allow vendors to set up servers to allow any client that
> gets an iTIP message generated by their products to get
> the latest TZ information. So when you send an iTIP invitation
> to a user they will have the the ability to get the latest TZ
> information as used by that vendor, and not a snapshot of what
> was valid the time it was sent. As many in the U.S. know, our
> TZ info may be changing soon. All static VTIMEZONE
> entries sent with iCal object may be inaccurate soon for the US.
>
>>
>> 10 min: Timezone Registry Requirements -- new agenda item
>>    -
>> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-royer-timezone-registry-02.txt
>>    - Although this is not a WG chartered item, Ted Hardie (our Area
>> Director) and I discussed this
>> draft briefly, and we need to hear from implementors  whether it's a
>> requirement to have a TZ registry
>> and if so does it need to  be available in a format that's conducive to
>> clients automatically updating
>> their timezone descriptions.
>>    - I've also been told that IANA  doesn't have the ability to do a
>> registry with the features
>> specified in  this document.
>>



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From lisa at osafoundation.org  Tue Aug  2 01:58:46 2005
From: lisa at osafoundation.org (Lisa Dusseault)
Date: Tue Aug  2 01:58:52 2005
Subject: [Ietf-calsify] Notes on the WG document sharing directory
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I went ahead yesterday and set up a sharing directory on a WebDAV server  
for CALSIFY:

http://ietf.webdav.org/calsify

There are three main ways to get at the information on that share
  - Use HTTP and follow links in static documents
  - Use HTTP to access the WebUI with dynamic directory listings  
(http://ietf.webdav.org/xythoswfs/webui/calsify)
  - Use WebDAV to synchronize or view the directories with any WebDAV  
client (such as sitecopy, MacOs WebDAVFS, XP redirector or Windows  
"network places").

For CALSIFY contributors[1] I'm happy to create accounts that allow you to  
upload new documents or document changes.  We'll use this to make XML  
versions of WG documents available as well as HTML and text versions, and  
to post meeting presentation slides and meeting notes, and probably find  
more uses later too (e.g. issues lists).

The server itself is hosted by UCSC with software provided by Xythos and  
hardware provided by me, and it has gone down for a couple days a couple  
times in the last year or two but overall it's been quite stable.

thx,
Lisa

[1] And if you want to use this technology in another WG let me know.
From lisa at osafoundation.org  Tue Aug  2 07:54:39 2005
From: lisa at osafoundation.org (Lisa Dusseault)
Date: Tue Aug  2 07:54:45 2005
Subject: [Ietf-calsify] Meeting notes and chat log
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Thanks Phillip and Bob for taking notes and scribing in the Jabber room

Meeting notes:
http://ietf.webdav.org/calsify/meetings/IETF63_meeting_notes.txt

Chat log:
http://www.xmpp.org/ietf-logs/[e-mail]/2005-08-02.html

Lisa
From helge.hess at opengroupware.org  Tue Aug  2 15:29:31 2005
From: helge.hess at opengroupware.org (Helge Hess)
Date: Tue Aug  2 15:29:35 2005
Subject: [Ietf-calsify] Notes on the WG document sharing directory
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On 2. Aug 2005, at 10:58 Uhr, Lisa Dusseault wrote:
>  - Use WebDAV to synchronize or view the directories with any  
> WebDAV client (such as sitecopy, MacOs WebDAVFS, XP redirector or  
> Windows "network places").

Not that its important, but it doesn't seem to work with OSX 10.4.2  
(times out).

Greets,
   Helge
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